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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

    Until now I have used Ubuntu, Mint, both Opensuses, Arch, Endeavour, Fedora, Manjaro, and Gentoo

    And not a single time did I have any problem installing any of these

    Also, if youre new to linux and encounter a problem, you should first consult the forum of your Distro. Those people can actually help you find out the problem youre having and Open a bug report or expand the Wiki with your edgecase and the appropiate way to solve it. But going all Heuli Heuli on everyone instead of actually submitting bug reports is the most unproduktive and childish way to solve the problem you (and probably a few more people in the future and past) have had.

    [–] [email protected] 41 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

    it's 2025, what popular distro makes it not easy?

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

    For nvidia? Alpine Linux. It's so hard there is 0 support outside of nouveau

    (I mean, Alpine uses MUSL instead of GLIBC, so expected)

    For AMD? doas apk add linux-firmware-amdgpu mesa mesa-tools vulkan-loaders xf86-video-amdgpu There, you're good to go(wiki also tells you that)

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago
    • Use a DIY distro made for containers
    • Cry about having do DIY

    Merkste selber

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

    idk about 2025 but as of a few years ago, Slackware used to not have a dependency resolver in whatever it uses to download packages. You had to resolve dependencies manually.

    Luckily I switched to Gentoo and 3 years later after my system was done compiling, it was already out of date so when I used emerge to update my system, it borked itself because it was so out of date.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

    Yes, but Slackware. That's obviously intentional

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

    And OP did specify "popular", which Slackware hasn't been since the late 90s

    [–] [email protected] -4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

    Gentoo, LFS, Slackware.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

    popular

    if you're using any of those you can't complain about having to run a few command lines

    [–] muhyb 4 points 17 hours ago

    LFS is not a distro and I highly doubt it's popular as well.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

    Slackware's package manager is extremely easy to use:

    slackpkg upgrade-all upgrades all installed packages
    slackpkg install-new installs all packages that were added to the repo
    slackpkg clean-system uninstalls all packages that were removed from the repo

    And that's all.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

    That's not really the point. The point this post is making is that third party software is often not available as a package for your distro. It's been a minute since I used Slackware, but I doubt you can find neatly built tgz slackware packages of Steam or the Nvidia drivers.

    I know Slackware has slackbuilds and you can install sbopkg to search for packages and automatically build them, but that goes a bit beyond "just use your package manager".

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

    That reads easy but what's with installing all packages that were added to a repo? How does that help anything?

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

    It's Slackware's approach to dependency resolution. You don't need to resolve dependencies on your system if you just install every package in the repo.

    The installed size is under 15 GB, and you get a system that works equally well for a desktop as for a server with lots of app choices out of the box.

    (Throwing the kitchen sink at you was the common way to install Linux in the old days, before quick Internet)

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago

    That's a horrendous approach since probably two decades. They shouldn't slack so hard.

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

    Yeah for NVDIA you either wanna use a distro that bakes it in (Bazzite, PopOS) or hop over to tge command line and install the drivers there, e. g. Fedora:

    https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA

    No idea how GUIs are for this nowadays (Manjaro, Linix Mint, Ubuntu, back when I used those distros it wasn't working too well most of the time).

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

    Arch-based distros do have the nvidia-dkms package available, works great in my experience. Linux Mint and Ubuntu got a dedicated driver utility for this. Debian provides a "nvidia-driver" package. OpenSuse provides it via YaST, or manually in a dedicated repo.

    Does it work as good as having the driver pre-installed? Hell no, those nvidia drivers are gosh darn awful in nature. We can just hope NVK can completely replace them asap.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago

    Fesora shows a popup on first boot along the lines if "click here if you need NViDIA drivers." If you install an Nvidia GPU aft the fact you have to search for it, but there is a GUI.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago

    I honestly really like pop os. I use it as a daily driver and it's been great. The only thing I hate is that I can't change the system color but I know there's an infinite amount of ways around that.