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    [โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    I've tried KDE on both Debian and Fedora. Neither have allowed me to do what I want to do: add a secondary storage device to my steam library. Whenever I try to, it just pops up a separate Dolphin window that doesn't affect steam once a folder is selected (almost like it's a separate process and not a child process of Steam).

    The flatpak works, but 1. Ew; 2. It runs steam on Xwayland; 3. Being a debian nerd, I want to be as much of a purist as possible to make life easier down the road

    I'll switch once this is fixed, but I just gotta stick with Gnome until it is

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    [โ€“] [email protected] 132 points 3 days ago (25 children)

    It's hard to believe that KDE used to be considered one of the worst DEs around and now it's like Gnome is getting worse while KDE is getting better and better.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 86 points 3 days ago (11 children)

    What is happening to GNOME is truly one of the biggest fumbles in OSS. They could have just continued improving things, but instead choose the path of most resistance, refused to commit to any logical strategies for further improvement, and are now stuck in a loop of nothing getting done

    [โ€“] [email protected] 61 points 3 days ago

    Seems to be an organizational thing, at least some who try to work with- or are part of the Gnome Foundation mentioned this. Apparently KDE e.V. got a way more flexible structure with work groups, easier ways to propose changes etc. while Gnome gets awfully stuck with their panel/council structure (not sure which one is the right word in english).

    When mentioning the problems with extensions (rather furiously since I just lost some work again and installed KDE) I was told both: Go on an create a PR, but also that "this was discussed and a panel decided against changing anything". Obviously no one will waste dozens, if not hundreds of hours of their time even just creating a Proof-of-Concept for sth. like an extension API if some authority already decided that nothing is supposed to be done about it.

    As long as your Gnome environment can't gracefully crash without taking absolutely everything with it (like with KDE or other DEs) there's no way in hell anyone should use Gnome on computers where actual work is being done, let alone something critical.

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    [โ€“] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    KDE is objectively the better DE from a technical standpoint (in my objective opinion) but sometimes GNOME just feels right in the moment. I have both installed and switch between them all the time

    [โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    You don't know what 'objective' means.

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    [โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

    I liked gnome for its minimalistic UI. I then realized i3 does that better :D

    [โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    As a Gentoo user, I can say that qtbase is probably the one piece of software that caused me the most failed emerges due to some conflict of python packages.

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    [โ€“] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (7 children)

    UX wise, GNOME is oversimplified and Plasma is overcomplicated.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (15 children)

    Gnome: We lock down everything since youre too wtupid to handle womputers Also gnome: "oh you want right click-create file? We can't think of a more streamlined solution than navigating to the folder you already have open in nautilus using terminal, making an empty file with a terminal text editor and googling the command to save and exit empty file. Intuitive is our MO"

    I love gnome workflow and simplicity but it is too locked down in nonsensical ways and it is too broken too often.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

    Gnome has always been like this. They started on this trend at the very beginning.
    I dropped it when they released 1.0 or 1.1 as they had released another of idiotic changes that were half because "we know better" and because "fuck you, user peons". Never looked back as it's been managed the same way ever since.

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    [โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

    Where is TempleOS when you need it, huh?

    [โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    obligatory LXDE is actually also really good but you know what would make it 10000000000000000000000000000 times better? If there was a Windows 7-esque search bar on the start menu so you could search instead of painstakingly browse through all the stupid icons like its Windows 95.

    I always post a comment like this in discussions about desktop environments in the off chance someone found a way to mod a search into LXDE's start menu.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I think both have their use cases. Gnome is absolutely fantastic, if you use it on a laptop with a touch screen (for university, school, etc), but on desktop I dont really like it that much. I like the simple design, but KDEs customisability is much better. However, their virtual desktops are kinda ass, but I dont really use them on my desktop PC anyways.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

    I think KDE reworked virtual desktops with Plasma 6. I haven't use KDE in years but I saw a comment about it a while back.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    You forgot to add that unlike GNOME, KDE does not depend on SystemD

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    [โ€“] [email protected] 64 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    I mostly neutral on KDE vs Gnome thing, but after I got into theming my computer more I started to hate how Gnome handle its theming capability (confusing, messy, if I fix one thing something else break) while on KDE it has menus dedicated to colors scheme and general looks and feel

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    [โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Maybe Iโ€™m biased because gnome is stock fedora but it runs so smoothly and I love how the windows button and search feature works out of the box. I know that can be setup in KDE though. I love how it feels unique unlike KDE and most other DE that just feel like bad windows. I love that it doesnโ€™t have dumbass names like KDE adding k to everything. Also feel it just works.

    Every time Iโ€™ve added KDE thereโ€™s also a bunch of stupid minor things that just down make sense. Why do so many applications lose the ability to use the right click menu like in jdownloader? Why do windowed games get pushed so vertical low? Why does search recommend things I clearly didnโ€™t ask for? Moving windows with the arrow keys is icky and not smooth. Blowing them up with windows W like gnomeโ€™s windows key just looks bad. I want to love it but it just feels like a FOSS windows.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Same here. I really tried using KDE as Fedora and Nobara were pushing for it with HDR, fractional scaling and variable refresh rates available. But there are so many useless options that seem to over-complicate everything.

    I always go back to Gnome especially now that the missing technologies were added with 47 and 48. I just need my 2 extensions (DashtoDock, Just Perfection) setup via Nix and Home-manager.

    also: Libadwaita > QT in terms of looks and usability.

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    [โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

    I am really glad both exist. Gnome is awesome because of its simplicity and ease of use and KDE is really cool because it makes me feel like a superior human being

    [โ€“] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (7 children)

    Whenever I try KDE there are a many minor bugs that are super annoying. Last time it just switched main and secondary monitor so my main one was a weird mix of both. I really wanna like KDE but since I switched to Wayland it always feels like something weird is going on.

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