These money will go to two people who created and actively maintain and promote an instance pretending the brutal murder of Ukranians is not happening but also necessary, and deleting and banning contrary opinions.
No.
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These money will go to two people who created and actively maintain and promote an instance pretending the brutal murder of Ukranians is not happening but also necessary, and deleting and banning contrary opinions.
No.
Comments are a hilarious minefield and a painful reminder of exactly how online leftists can never get shit done. We want FOSS federated social media platforms to escape the tech giants that would happily facilitate a fascist wave if it meant they can serve more targeted ads. But when that platform actually exists in a totally functional and apolitical way, we don't want to support its development because the people willing to work full time on the project for poverty wages have bad political opinions. It's so bad that we'd rather support Steve Huffman's bot farm which is 1,000 times as politically influential as Lemmy will ever be at this rate.
Lemmy Apolitical?
LMAO 🤣
The platform itself is apolitical. It can be forked and used for any purpose by other creators. Any instance of a different political persuasion can be spun up and maintained separately, as many defederated instances have. This is a result of the project the 2 devs are paid to produce.
This has to be a fucking joke. You say it can “actually exist in a totally functional apolitical way” while the two principle influencers of the platform “have bad political opinions.” You didn’t even bother to break up your ignorant defense of their abhorrent inhumane stance, that they are willing to publicly share, from your claim that the platform exists in an apolitical way with a paragraph break. Fuck these two jackasses, I pulled my recurring donation because this shit brought to light their abhorrent views, that again, are just the ones they are willing to admit publicly in a software development capacity. They should have focused on the product and kept their bullshit out of it, hopefully growing the fuck up along the way. I find it hilarious how many dipshits supporting these bigots are the same ones who would parrot garbage about abstaining to vote in US elections because “both sides” bs, the thing is, this platform has no meaningful consequence if it dies. The idea is out there now, it will get picked up by contributors who aren’t bigots or it won’t. No extra lives will be lost, ruined, or families destroyed if I’m unwilling to support these two bigots.
I will never forget when some dumb shit was arguing that not voting is not inaction.
It's literally the bare minimum.
Well, that's actually the benefit of supporting FOSS. At some point along the way, someone can pick up the project totally of their own accord, fork it, and continue development. But I don't see many devs lining up for the job of being accountable to someone as well mannered as you.
What's really funny is that your comment that directed extremely aggressive energy at me for the crime of constructing a poor argument motivated me to shell out a recurring payment for the developers out of spite. I guess we really can get something done when we work together.
Thanks for your support!
poverty wages
Citation needed.
Across patreon, opencollective and librepay they make a combined total of recurring $3507.66 per month, plus undisclosed amounts in crypto and ko-fi donations.
According to the post, less than $100 go towards hosting .ml, so that's an even 1700 bucks (plus x) for each of the developers.
They are budgeting in EUR, else I believe their origin country is undisclosed, meaning it could be double the national average (Kosovo, Montenegro, Greece); average (Italy, Spain, Portugal) or below average (France, Germany). Just to highlight a few, here's a full list: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage
That's of course under the assumption that they reside in countries that officially use the EUR and not merely use it as a common currency. In Bulgaria, Albania etc. they'd be quite a bit above national average as well (the source I quoted converts all domestic currencies to EUR).
The donation amount has increased a lot after this call for donations. Previously it was only 1000 Euro per month for each of us. With my skills I could easily earn 8000 Euro per month or more working for a company in the United States.
That doesn’t seem like much to me. Maybe not technically poverty but certainly not rich.
Given the name Dessalines, I'm guessing one dev is French though I suppose that's too much of a reach. Regardless, I think you would be hard pressed to find many developers willing to commit to a project full time when they have to beg for donations from a relatively fickle audience like Lemmy users, just to reach a target of a middling income. Much easier to work for a financial firm building their app that approves predatory payday loans or whatever.
If half the people circlejerking in here were serious they could pay a liberal developer to contribute instead, but somehow I doubt that's happening.
thanks to those who donate and keep this place running, cuz I can't right now :)
Being Ukrainian it's not possible for me to donate to supporters of russian genocidal imperialism.
I hope both of them meet the same fate as "Donbas Cowboy", Russell Bentley:
Bentley’s wife, Lyudmila, then claimed that Russian soldiers from a tank battalion abducted him.
According to the Investigative Committee, Vansyatsky, Agaltsev, and Iordanov tortured Bentley on April 8, and he died shortly afterward.
I am personally hoping that the core software will be forked while retaining the Lemmy name. Change it to Lemmy-TSF (tankie scum free). I would donate monthly to a development team that doesn't include genocide supporters.