Rich is right, since this is the date format that sorts correctly in filenames.
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And it is easily extensible to YYYY-MM-DDThh:mm:ss to include the time of day
Won't be true after 9999-12-31, however.
Oh no! The Y10K bug!
Can't wait for the Y40k bug, when Tyranids begin to infect our brains.
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If I, my software, or my data last this long, I will have nearly 8000 years to resolve it. Which is to say, the year 9998 is going to get busy.
Can be solved with a small shellscript adding a leading zero to all filenames with the format.
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Who's Rich? Did you mean Randall?
...dammit, the only comics I read are XKCD and OOTS and I done fucked up.
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I am a big fan of iso 8601, I just wish it was possible to write more dates than February 27th, 2013 with it
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I propose that we amend the ISO to require the days of the week be named after their etymological roots in that language.
English Days of the Week:
Day of the Sun
Day of the Moon
Day of Týr
Day of Odin
Day of Thor
Day of Frēa
Day of Saturn
Imagine dating a meeting, "Day of Odin, May 7, 2025." Imagine a store receipt that says, "Day of Thor, June 5, 2025." Imagine telling a friend, "July 4th falls on a Day of Frēa this year!"
THIS IS WHAT WE COULD HAVE. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE LOST. THIS IS WHAT WAS STOLEN FROM US.
We could bring it back. We could make this the norm. We could make this real. We could summon this bit of ancient magic back into our world. Let's remember what we actually named these days for! BRING BACK THE DAY OF THOR!
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2013-02-27 is a weird way of writing 1361923200
Issue: there are 27 different ways of writing a date.
Engineers: We most make a common standard that is unambiguous, easy to understand and can replace all of these.
Issue: there are 28 different ways of writing a date.
Joke aside, I really think the iso standard for dates is the superior one!
The sane way of dealing with it is to use UTC everywhere internally and push local time and local formatting up to the user facing bits. And if you move time around as a string (e.g. JSON) then use ISO 8601 since most languages have time / cron APIs that can process it. Often doesn't happen that way though...
Generally yes, that's the way to do it, but there are plenty of times where you need to recreate the time zone something was created for, which means additionally storing the time zone information.
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ISO 8601 was published on 06/05/88 and most recently amended on 12/01/04.
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2013-02-27 = 1984
There are several people in the comments saying they have to use 27 Feb 2013 because they work with people all over the world. I’m really confused - what does that solve that 2013-02-13 does not? I know that not every language spells months the English way so “Dec” or “May” aren’t universal. Is there some country that regularly puts year day month that would break using ISO 8601 or RFC 3339?
I think learning all abbreviations for different months in different languages is more complicated than just learning that the time is sorted from largest to smallest unit.
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Where I live, "DD. MM. YYYY" is the standard but some old tombstones use
Do you know why one would ever do that? 20(02/05)25 feels like the "Don't Dead Open Inside" of dates.
Which is exactly why they're used on tombstones. See, the world makes sense after all!
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My goodness, some of the comments in here must come from people who thought that those writing the standard were morons who did no research.
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I agree with the ISO approach, but unfortunately without mainstream adoption in a majority of countries it's just another standard.
ISO 8601 allows all kinds of crazy time stamps. RFC 3339 is much nicer and simpler, and the sweet spot is at the intersection of ISO 8601 and RFC 3339.
Then again, ISO 8601 contains some nice things that RFC 3339 does not, like ranges and durations, recurrences...
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