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[–] [email protected] 137 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (11 children)

Before you reply to me directly please understand:

  1. The US overthrew democracy in the country I am from
  2. The US installed a fascist king with secret police that terrorized my family
  3. Once kicked out the US supported a dictator in the neighboring country where the other half of my family lived
  4. The US funded both sides of a war between my country and the neighboring one that led to mass civilian deaths, one side directly by giving a dictator weapons and cash and the other side clandestinely thru laundering money by selling drugs in Latin America
  5. Once they lost that war turned on the dictator in the neighboring country and invented reasons to illegally invade. Twice
  6. Toppled the regime and left a power vacuum that consumed all my family that lived there for literally hundreds of years.
  7. Created material conditions in the country my family is from that forced them to leave or die

You Americans are not the good guys, your country and government is evil to its core.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I would try to guess your country but there are too many that the US has done this to

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Have you considered being born to a wealthy white family in the West? I hear it's much easier

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago (23 children)

From an outsider's perspective it seems like the Democrats behave like that because the US electorate is genuinely right-wing and need pandered to.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Nope, when you poll on individual policies, they're way to the left of the democrats.

The democrats showcase healthcare bill wasn't "subsidies for employer-based health insurance, that you have no idea what it's going to cost and have to buy at a specific time of year by going to one of 50 sites provided by your state at a specific time of year and filling out a bunch of forms or face a tax penalty, with a sliding scale based on income, marriage status, and other factors" because that's more popular than "free healthcare".

Same if you ask americans about Biden (and Harris's) policies of "loan forgiveness for PELL grant recipients up to X dollars depending on age, loan repayment status, income, parent's income, and whether you were born on a prime-numbered date" vs "free college"

The democrats compromise their bills, not because there's a bunch of "moderates" who are exactly between democrat and republican who will vote for democrats if they promote garbage versions of progressive bills that don't actually help anyone, but because they know those versions are less likely to pass and be easier to chip away at, and therefore won't piss off their billionaire patrons.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 days ago (26 children)

This fact doesn't really invalidate the initial statement though.

We would not be experiencing what we are currently experiencing presently if the Dems won. This isn't an endorsement of the Dems, just reality

I view voting as a means to steer us to possibilities. Revolution and change won't come through the ballot box but who gets voted in can influence that one way or another.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 days ago (2 children)

There is nothing more cringe than seeing americans debating wheter they're fascist or not due to X or Y politician rhetoric when they have been dropping bombs abroad for their entire existence.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 days ago (7 children)

I try to remind people that we have no "Leftist" party or even a "Centre left" party anymore. We have Center right and far right now.

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 6 days ago (98 children)

"Both sides bad" is why we have Trump.

Democrats took America from gays are illegal, to full gay rights with marriage. Environmental laws have been all Democrats. If Democrats did nothing, Trump wouldn't have signed 76 executive orders reversing Biden orders on his very first day.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 days ago (7 children)

That's right, everybody knows that the left and the right are perfectly equally bad, and the act of voting to stop the bleeding and starting a revolution are mutually exclusive /s

And then after years of this nonsense, people wonder how the poor voter turnout that got the fascist elected happened.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Reminder that the Democrats would be considered even further right than the Conservative Party in Canada. And Canada itself is still considered pretty right wing with no big leftist parties (NDP is still center-right at best)

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 days ago (5 children)

The absolute highest priority in American politics should be getting rid of the 2 party system. I’m not going to pretend to know how exactly, but I think a good step in the right direction would be some form of a ranked voting system.

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