Can they kick out the US and just ask the EU to station troops there instead?
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The incoming prime minister should challenge Trump to a one on one fight for Greenland. If he refuses, all state heads should just make chicken noises every time they meet him.
feels wrong if the americans don't wager something. florida, maybe.
That doesn't sound fair to Greenland if/when Trump loses.
Maybe they can just convert it to a cash prize, how much is one Florida worth anyway?
I love this plan.
Yet again President Camacho would be superior
It is such an insult but he is incapable of empathy, not that he'd care if he could
For what "national security reasons"? I'd like him to elaborate. Is Greenland somehow threatening the US? the only country threatening other countries in the area is the US.
I imagine it's to put defences in the Arctic....
But if Putin and Russia are fantastic and great people why does America need to guard the Arctic?
For those evil Norwegians, they might try to spread universal Healthcare!
He has americans convinced that they need to annex greenland to protect them from Russia and China. For some reason they think China is closer to greenland than to Hawaii …
But Trump loves Russia, aren't they great? Why would they ever be a threat?
I don't know a single American that believes what you just said. Most of us recognize this as bullshit.
Note: I'm not in a deep red state
It's the same playbook used by Putin with Ukraine
Let me guess, natural resources.
Also strategic control of the melting and ever more passable Arctic, along with Russia. This also partly explains why Trump wants Canada.
Not to detract, but I never noticed how phallic Sweden and Norway looked from that angle
Looks like newer euro coins include Norway, but that wasn't always the case, leading to this unfortunate creation:
A sane president who values geopolitical allies would just work out a deal with the host country to install more military bases in the region of concern, rather than burning every partnership we have by being aggressively expansionist.
The US already has that agreement!
A sane president who values geopolitical allies would just work out a deal with the host country to install more military bases in the region of concern, rather than burning every partnership we have by being aggressively expansionist.
Dismissing it as insanity undermines the culpability of what Trump is doing.
The point isn't whatever 'national security!' bullshit they're putching it as, the point is to piss of Greenland to the point of severing our relationship with them. Same with the shit he's doing to Canada, Panama, etc.
Trump's goal is to weaken the US, and he's accomplishing that in part by cutting us off from our allies.
But an insane president will bluster about things he doesn't want to actually do (like Canada and Greenland) as a distraction to keep us focused on this nonsense while he raids the government coffers for all the retirement money he can get his grubbly diseased hands on.
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They already have strategic control over Greenland. Denmark would let the USA do almost whatever they want on greenland.
Denmark probably were the USAs biggests bitch in Europe until they started threatening Greenlands sovereignity.
Just another case of Trump apparently not understanding that you can be powerful in other ways than bullying and threatening people, and often more powerful. Or it's all in the service of furthering Putin's agenda and weakening the West. Or both.
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If anything it's cause for national insecurity, given that if they invade, per NATO rules, an attack on one is an attack on all.
But Trump is used to getting what he wants by breaking the rules and facing no consequences, so I guess it'll be a FAFO thing.
I must admit, I do fear that if it comes to that NATO will fight the usual way - strong worded letter. For a buffoon who can't even read and only responds to a fat stick to the face.
This is going to be interesting because Article 5 assumes an attack on a member state by a non-member state.
By attacking Greenland, Trump would violate Articles 1 and 2 (pledging to use peaceful means to settle a dispute and contribute to friendly relations though you could argue he's violating the latter right now).
I think the whole point of this act is to force NATO to kick the US out of NATO, which is exactly what Russia (and by extension Trump) wants.
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Well I recall reading about what happened the last time vikings tried to land on American shores, and I say bring em on!
I just need to check my notes real quick.
Okay so it turns out we may have genocided the people who defended their homeland against some of the most feared warfighters of that time, so perhaps trump just drops this whole thing before unnecessary blood is shed.
Seriously, anyone who gets so much as a papercut as a direct result of one of trump's orders is regretful and unfortunate.
So I got curious and decided to pay a visit to my favorite site to see this... Greenland is about the size of the US Midwest. I did not know that until today.
I'm reasonably certain that Trump thinks Greenland is much larger. He is stupid, after all.
It's more about the resource extraction rights.
Ahhhhh. NOW the Canada and Greenland thing makes sense. If Trump took over Canada and Greenland, then Russia gains full control of the artic.
That's an interesting point.
Everything always seems to make a lot more sense when viewed with the "how does this benefit Putin" lens.
Which probably means there's something in Panama too, and I doubt it's a canal.
Oh for sure. I just keep seeing Greenland everywhere since it seems to be Trump's flavor of the week, and knowing it's not as big as it look on the Mercator projection, I finally decided to see how large it really is.
For our Aussie friends, it's about the same size as Qld and NSW.
Here’s a great site to do exactly this!
That's the site I used to show Greenland's size 😂 I'm the parent comment for this thread haha
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Danish Defense Committee Chairman Rasmus Jarlov warned that US annexation "would mean war between two NATO countries."
It's going to be one NATO country soon if the US really goes through of leaving NATO.
It'll be an interesting time in the dumpster fire when Article 5 is invoked against the US.
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Thanks to Greenland, a voice of sanity, in response to the muttered burblings of a demented turnip. In me you will find yet another US citizen that agrees with you, and respects your soveriegnty. The turnip is using this distraction to rob us blind, I fear.
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Inb4 Trump starts invading because 2-3 MAGA nuts from greenland said they wanted to be part of US, so that's plenty of reason for the whole Greenland to need it as well - "they'll see why it's good for them once they're ours, trust me".
Trump also undermined Denmark's claim to Greenland, saying it was "very far away
He is aware USA is even further away?
He is not
I have a hard time believing the public, much less military members, have the stomach to do something like this. There's zero moral standing in it and it seems like all modern overt military actions by the US needed to have something its participants and supporters could hold up to say "I'm doing this to make the world, and my country, a better and safer place," even if that publicized nobility turned out to be a farce coughIraqcough (although I am glad Saddam got to experience what it feels like to die). Unless you're the demigod of a highly programmed autocracy like North Korea, it takes significant buy-in to wage an invasion, war, and occupation. With Greenland being a benign and peace-loving gem of nature, it would absolutely blow my mind if Trump said "CHARGE!" and military members did anything but a limp soulless salute and slow shuffle to mill about stupidly in passive protest.
"Naturally, the common people don't want war. Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
- Hermann Goering
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I wish Trump would shut TF up.
The worst part about him winning the election is that you can't escape his bullshit.
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