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[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

Is this like that Bernie muscle man thing? Or is it real this time?

https://theweek.com/speedreads/734701/look-alarming-russialinked-ad-buff-bernie

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Looks like the author was sleeping during the last election.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

“….next…”?

😆

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We’re already absolutely fucked here in the US, no need to waste any effort with further meddling at this point. The cure for this, globally, is that everyone needs to log off and touch grass. Obviously it’s much more nuanced than that, but I hope that makes sense. I deleted most of my social media and it has only had a positive impact on my well being.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

Oo! I just collected the perfect one to put here:

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Its not just China and Russia doing it anymore. Russia has the considerable might of the legitimate assets of the USA. Not to mention its unofficial ones, firehose of falsehood from the Russian internet troll farms, American troll farms, and every Bubba, Jed, and White nationalist WASP with affluent sounding names with access to wi-fi

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Pfft...

As if they haven't already... 🤦‍♀️ 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Damn I hope they want a good president next

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

With generative AI (I would say that language models are a subset of this, they generate text) you can trick a reasonably naive person for a long period (and a reasonably skeptical person for a short period):

a) into believing that something really happened

b) into believing that many people support an idea

This is potentially highly damaging to electoral representative democracy.

There exists a form of representative democracy (representative direct democracy) that's invulnerable - it's called sortitition and allocates offices by lottery - but no country currently uses it and no country seems prepared to use it.

So in short term, the solution is to be skeptical of the information we receive. For many people, that's quite a lot to ask.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Especially online - detection becomes possible over sustained interactions for only the most critical (at best), but you don't get that online, and especially not on drive-by commenting, which is the norm for media/social media.

Phony consensus and bad rhetoric are one system prompt away, and the only thing I'd argue is there probably is no escaping it, even for the most civic minded and informed people. Your best bet in the coming months is an awareness it's happening largely undetected, that we've all fallen for it, and explaining it to as many people as possible.

The big problem will be the vast majority thinks they can tell, that they're uninfluenced, and that they have the inside line.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

to try to disrupt*