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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced retaliatory tariffs after Donald Trump confirmed 25% tariffs on Canadian goods and 10% on energy, set to take effect at 12:01 a.m. Tuesday.

Trump justified the move by linking it to fentanyl smuggling concerns.

Trudeau called the tariffs "unjustified" and imposed 25% tariffs on $155 billion in U.S. goods, with $30 billion effective immediately and the rest in 21 days.

He warned of price hikes and job losses in the U.S., arguing the move violates Trump’s own trade agreement from his last term.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Carry on Prime Minister Trudeau and create better trade deals with the EU, EEC and friendly Asian countries.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 hours ago

Trudeau’s measured retaliation shows Canada won’t back down but prioritizes diplomacy over chaos.

🐱🐱🐱🐱

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

Don't retaliate 1:1. Retaliate 5:1.

Burn the fucking bridge already.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

American here.

100% support you Canada. Keep it up.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 hours ago

<3

We know it's not all of you.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (5 children)

Excuse my ignorance but wouldn't that make things more expensive for Canadians as well?

:edit: thank you all for answering me. I totally understand now.

Fuck trump

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (7 children)

Yes. It's alright, I've managed to mostly eliminate American products. Anyone smart or at least patriotic has looked into it as well, since the madness began. It was kind of neat watching the US products just sit on the shelves while Canadian stuff emptied out.

To reiterate what all our politicians have been saying to US media, Trump is raising prices on Americans to hurt us, it's for no good reason, and we're forced to do the same on our side.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

I am starting to understand how felon tRump bankrupted casinos

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but items are targeted to inflict the least amount of pain. We don't neeed orange juice or bourbon for example.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

And inflict the maximum amount of pain on specifically the bad Americans who are doing this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Only on American products. Canadian products theoretically will cost the same.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

Yes, tariffs increase prices in almost any case they're implemented, which is the goal. Trudeau seems to be hoping that by adding these tariffs, it will become even easier to shift consumer behavior to buy non-American made goods, which could possibly either lead Trump to reduce/remove his tariffs, or at least make Americans feel more of the economic impact of those reductions in sales, which could then push more people to go against Trump politically.

[–] [email protected] 255 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (5 children)

I like Cory Doctorow’s plan.

The reason Canada got tariff-free access to sell to the US in the first place? Canada agreed to enforce penalties for tampering with digital locks, following the premise of the Digital Milennium Copyright Act.

If the US is going back on the deal, then Canada should too. Make it legal to jailbreak all US tech.

Doctorow advocating for this plan:

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

If the US is going back on the deal, then Canada should too. Make it legal to jailbreak all US tech.

That should be considered with plans for further escalation varying from nothing to an embargo.

Though arguably piracy and jailbreaking are not so bad for said domination. Microsoft practically encouraged piracy in ex-USSR at some point. Piracy solves the availability problem, supports market share, leads to short-term loss in sales but long-term growth.

But that's Microsoft, while US government in general seems to think DMCA is for them what the Sound was for the Danish crown in middle ages.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Microsoft practically encouraged piracy in ex-USSR at some point. Piracy solves the availability problem, supports market share, leads to short-term loss in sales but long-term growth.

Yup, Bill Gates pretty much said he'd rather have people growing up on pirated Microsoft products than use alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Heck, make it legal to pirate all American media.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

A surprising amount of 'American' media is filmed and produced in Canada. ~~Toronto~~ Vancouver is like Hollywood North. This would probably be a footgun

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Vancouver is a huge TV filming location as well.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ugh, I feel like a dummy. I was picturing BC in my mind and typed out Toronto. You're 100% correct about Vancouver

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

No problem, make exceptions for anything that was made involving Canada!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Producers like to film in Toronto while pretending that it's NYC. X-Men and What We Do In The Shadows are the first things that come to mind. I still find it hilarious that the "Westchester" Train Station in X1 is in Hamilton (I believe)

A more subtle crossover is that Ramona (Scott Pilgrim) is from NYC

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

It already basically is; Anti-piracy laws in Canada don't have a lot of teeth. I leave my torrent computer running 24 hours a day to seed and I don't even get emails anymore after switching to a smaller service provider.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

In that case, the Candian government should set up an official service for downloading American stuff. Making it easy to find things would be worth a nominal fee for a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

VPN with multi-hop proxy, my bratha/sista.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

No need. I'm seeding 24/7 raw dogging my connection and don't hear a peep from my ISP.

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[–] [email protected] 125 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Trump is such a vindictive moron. Whether he's a Russian asset or just a certifiably stupid, the end result is the same.

Good god I hate this fucking timeline. Fuck corporate America for backing this monster and fuck everyone who voted for him. Fuck the Democrats for collectively shrugging about all this too.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Whether he’s a Russian asset or just certifiably stupid

Most definitely both.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, if he was just in it for his own aggrandisement, none of this would make sense. The orders are very clearly coming from Moscow here, because only Putin benefits from all this bullshit.

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