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Apparently there's an issue with some instances banning users for criticizing authoritarian governments. Is lemmy.world a safe place to criticize governments?

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[–] [email protected] 404 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well let’s find out: Free Ukraine! Fuck Russia. Fuck China!

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (3 children)

fuck the orcs. fuck the CCCP. Winne the Pooh shouldn’t run a country

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (27 children)

fuck the orcs

hate the government not the people am i right?

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Mao Zedong is objectively one of the worst people in all of human history, and his influence held China back for decades, and continues to harm it to this day.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Are you still with us now?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Winnie the Pooh got him.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 166 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

i mean lemmy.world server is in germany, but the guy who runs it is dutch so probably has a pretty open policy with freedom of speech i would imagine. And i mean real freedom of speech not the dog whistle for being a dick/racist/phobe

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (11 children)

As one of the Admins of Lemmy.World we're pretty open but if you're a dick and unnecessarily a troll we'll kick ya.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I still feel like I need a new term for this. Yet another word co-opted by idiots.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Freedom of speech with consequences?

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All governments should be able to be criticized if we're going to be honest about having genuinely open discussions.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Seeing as having the ability to criticize gov'ts is a fundamental part of democracy I fail to see why any social media site would think banning it should be best-practice.

That said I do take issue with some posters who seem to rant on a specific target without any sort of evidentiary data. The slide into "I don't need proof to back my opinion" is a prolific and dangerous thing these days.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago

Fuck the CCP.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

Hey there. This instance currently follows the code of conduct and rules for mastodon.world: https://mastodon.world/about

Discussion and civil criticism of these subjects is allowed, but name calling, ad hominem attacks, and other uncivil behaviour breaks the rules.

Also remember that specific communities here may have additional rules.

It looks like we can't pin comments yet, so apologies if this reply gets buried. For now I'm going to lock this post, as the discussion has degraded and is full of rule-breaking.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I just hope people do not spam it to farm karma like on reddit.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reads the brave, totally not circle-jerked comments in this thread

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

What would be the point. There is no points system in the federation.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (11 children)
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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Haven’t had any problems so far! Taiwan numbah one! Fuck Putin!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Lemmy.World and Lemmy. Ml are two different places. Lemmy ML was created as a safehaven for people from subreddits that were banned like ChapoTrapHouse. Lemmy. World is designed to be the general Lemmy Community. Lemmy. Ml was the biggest until the reddit issues but I am pretty sure Lemmy World is after overtaking them. Lemmy.ML is trying to steer traffic here because they know that their community wasn't going to be palatable to the vast majority of people. There's a wide variety here so it's very hard to pinpoint where this place's userbase stands politically.

Lemmy. ML and Lemmy.world are different places and it's for the best if we just leave each be and have our own communities in peace.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

There is a mod log on Lemmy so you can see why people get banned.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's difficult for people to have discussions on the internet that involve disagreement without it becoming uncivilized. I don't think being critical of the CCP is a particularly divisive viewpoint everywhere outside of China. I can't imagine the conversation devolving to such a state that it has to be completely banned from being discussed.

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