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Version 2 of the European app alternatives. Feel free to share it :)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 minutes ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

One thing that list shows me is that Google are incredibly good at what they do, and have a finger in almost every pie imaginable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 25 minutes ago (1 children)

Aren't all these alternatives just Google or bing proxies?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 minutes ago

Threema isn't. Anyway, it's a bad list. It's reminiscent of Russian "import replacement" lists which nobody takes seriously.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

For mail I use mailo which is french. But I use a lot of other providers like disroot and my own email domain.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I recently discovered Monocles.eu, they are a privacy respecting email, chat (Matrix?), drive (Nextcloud?), social (Mastodon) and translator platform. I'm still forming my opinion, but they look good. In France, there's also the Chatons who propose local alternative hosting of many common services, such as Nextcloud, Mastodon, Matrix, Mattermost, VaultWarden, etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I didn't know Soundcloud was European. Been using them for a while, my only complaints are: lack of ability to report much of anything, lack of moderation, and a system that incentivizes poor quality uploads of popular songs to avoid automated detection.

If you let it autoplay after picking a popular song you might get a list of bangers or you might get sped up trash uploads with an unfortunate high pitch tone that I imagine must have been outside of the uploader's hearing range. Occasionally it plays some guy reading phonetic scripts like he's just learning to read for the first time for an hour, but it made it into the list because it's titled after a beatles song.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 minutes ago

SoundCloud might be the single worst music platform out there, and that's saying a lot given that Spotify exists. The audio quality is awful, everything is expensive and they double and triple dip artists and listeners. Yet despite the exploitative monetisation, they don't seem to actually make any money and have almost gone bankrupt several times.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

It's pretty telling that, as a European, I've literally not heard of any of those European alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Some of these aren't European so I wouldn't feel too bad. PixelFed is American, for example.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Canada is in North America, tbf.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

It tells more about you. Deezer, Soundcloud, DeepL and Bolt are pretty popular globally.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

That doesn't mean that they are subfunctional though.

[–] ExperimentalGuy 8 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Last time I checked ecosia gets it's search queries from Bing, just a heads up. Other than that I'd say it's really solid.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

There is Mojeek that is based in UK and have an own search index and web crawler. I wouldn't recommend it. Mojeek.com

Just wait for this https://blog.ecosia.org/eusp/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Qwant and Swisscows are in the same basket too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I think Qwant hasn't been using Bing for awhile now actually

[–] [email protected] 27 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Peertube has this fediverse problem. You google it, go to the webpage and instead of getting a list of promoted videos, you get an explanation of what it is and a manual on how to actually join, starting with „select a pot“. You then get to search the list of pots that all have like 10 viewers and 5gb upload limit. I stopped at this point.

That being said, i really would like an European youtube alternative, but not off the „provide your own hardware“ kind.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 16 hours ago

Exactly my problem why I'm not really getting into Lemmy either, same with mastodon. The whole decentralization standing in the middle of it all is just annoying.

Also yeah, Peertube did not even look like a competitor at all. Same with Threema with it costing 6 euros to use

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Joinpeertube.org doesn’t have the best onboarding, but take a look at the pinned post at [email protected] for a few good servers to choose from.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

If it has to be explained in a post on another site then it’s guaranteed to lose.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Thank you

Edit: this is much more helpful than the website

[–] [email protected] 14 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This is missing Spotify and TomTom unless I am missing something

[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for the feedback. It is not supposed to be a complete list. It's a start. You can find more alternatives in our database: https://buy-european.net/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

One more request then! If appreciate it is your not put text everywhere without additional information. For example the AI filler on the browser page is just noise. Is rather only have the list than contract filters:

""" There are several compelling reasons to opt for European web browsers. These browsers not only prioritize user privacy and data protection but also foster innovation and support local technology ecosystems. """

Thanks for the project by the way!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Thanks for the feedback! We decided to go for it as we want to make sure that the database is not specifically designed for tech-savvy people. We want to give basic information to make the move to different solutions accessible and easy to understand for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 17 hours ago

Organic Maps ftw.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 day ago (4 children)
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