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Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton's trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.

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[–] [email protected] 186 points 6 days ago (4 children)

"limited resources" wtf? just copy and paste the content. I guess they didn't like the backslash on Mastodon because of the CEO and Trump bootlicker Andy Yen

[–] [email protected] 92 points 5 days ago

This is even more ridiculous given they have a bluesky account and all they need to do is follow the bridge and their content will be ported to mastodon. Literally 5 seconds.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Oh yeah that’s prob it. On Reddit they can delete any negative comments

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Same on Bluesky actually. They can hide comments they don’t like in response to their posts.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago

Yeah not even copy paste, this has been easily automatable for years.

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[–] [email protected] 199 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Didn't the CEO of Proton lick the Trump boot recently?

[–] [email protected] 99 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They did, yes.

I'm assuming the next video to be released will be of the Proton CEO and Trump on on some fetish.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago

One shitty CEO can destroy a company the same way one shitty president can destroy a country.

[–] [email protected] 103 points 5 days ago

On Mastodon, Proton is held to a higher standard. That’s why they left for the dumb masses instead.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)

every time I hear anything about this shit company, I keep thinking it's valve's linux compatibility thingy and I get real confused about why people are hating on it.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I was an apologist for Proton during the whole Andy Yen commentary mess, but this is a really sus choice for Proton to be making.

All that matters under capitalism is growth. I wonder if the thinking here is that Proton has already captured all the geek/privacy enthusiast crowd that it's going to, and Andy Yen's social fuck-up basically killed any future expansion in that space, so this is part of a pivot to new markets and abandonment of areas they know they aren't going to win back.

If so, I'd expect to see Proton making expanded ad buys targeting preppers, libertarians, sov-cit types and other "I'm being watched!!" kooks.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 days ago

They're focusing on platforms that allow them to censor discussion.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Looks like I'm leaving Proton. Fucking hell, not even a year ago I migrated from Gmail

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Learn your lesson and switch to a custom domain :) that way you will never have to change all your services' email addresses anymore, when you want to switch mail provider.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

SAME! I only just finished getting all my servers and custom domain set up, and I already have to look for a new provider.

If someone has any recommendations for a good hosted email, VPN and online storage provider let us know. It seems there's not many good options left.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

Another L by Proton. Why would they even say it and just stop posting silently.

Even if you agree with Proton's positions it's clear that Andy is just tanking the company's image with such rookie leadership mistakes.

Incredibly incompetence which makes you wonder how competent the actual code running everything is?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 days ago (11 children)

It's as if with each passing day, Proton wakes up and chooses to wear a slightly different red flag for a cape than the one they wore yesterday. I'm obviously being hyperbolic here, but I'm also a bit upset with myself for having decided to get an annual subscription with them last November.

I've heard good things about Mullvad for VPN and Tuta for mail. I've got my own domain that I can start using with whatever mail host I land on.

I'm in the U.S. What other mail providers are people using, and what other VPN providers should I be considering?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I was using proton pass but I would like to move on. Is there a good open source password manager that is secure and hosted locally?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Vaultwarden is the opensourced version of Bitwarden. One of the employees of Bitwarden is allowed to maintain it in their own time

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

I use KeePassX. there are android, linux and macos clients. i sync them between devices securely using Mega

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

keepass plus syncthing works well for me. I sync between linux, android, windows.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 days ago (6 children)

I've been giving them the benefit of the doubt, but I'm kinda done with them. Anyone have any suggestions for a mail provider? I'm not yet willing to self-host that.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I've been happy with mailbox.org. I left proton after the boot licking. I had been a paying customer for years.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Makes me glad that I procrastinated on switching over, I guess I’ll just ride out my current NordVPN subscription and switch over to Mullvad?

Almost makes me afraid to ask the community, what exactly is wrong with Nord? 😅

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

due to limited ressources

Is it that hard to post the same thing on various social media? Maybe it is, I wouldn't know. But that sounds like a shitty excuse.

It looks like they're not up to date on X tho, hopefully they drop that shit. And they're on Bluesky, which, if not Mastodon, is a little bit better I guess.

I really don't get the hidden idea behind leaving Mastodon.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Honestly I would be fine if they just setup some kind of mirror so their posts would show up across different platforms. The biggest issue with then not using mastodon is just not being informed of what is going on. They don't need to engage with people on mastodon just setup some kind of bridge.

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[–] thesmokingman 28 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Can you even use Reddit if you’re running Proton’s VPN? I know Reddit has been actively blocking other VPNs (eg Mullvad) for some time.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Guess I made the right choice to leave Proton.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (11 children)

Looks like Tuta’s getting my business now.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago

Funny how they didn’t make actual post on Mastodon, but just silently edited their profile to say they left Mastodon? That’s pretty cowardly.

Yet another reason to not like Proton.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

I'm so disappointed Proton. So sad, but maybe you already live long eniugh to become evil? Time to move on, aah so bad..It was so great piece of software and so great company in this hell capitalist world.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago

Yup, no sorry. Only bots left in reddit, have fun!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 days ago (2 children)

At least they are still on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/proton.me

But a true fediverse presence would be better

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Bluesky is not much better than X despite it claiming to

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 days ago (5 children)

It's... better in the sense that you don't have right wing weirdos all over the place. But technically? Organizationally? Feels like we're on track to replay the same exact shit over again. It feels like people just aren't learning the lessons they should from the Twitter takeover.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I wish VPS providers didn't commonly block email ports. Self hosting seems like the only way to stay in control

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago (7 children)

If you're looking to shake up your email provider in the wake of this, I highly recommend getting a custom domain name, whatever provider you choose. Cloudflare sells domains at cost. Get a not-embarrasing .com of your own, and then you can move email providers in future without losing continuity. Proton allows exporting .eml files, which you can then import into your next provider. Or just keep in cold storage and declare email bankruptcy. Once you have a custom domain, you can use unique emails for all your services by setting up a catchall address. This will at least impede credential stuffing attacks, and let you know who sold/leaked your address if you do get spam.

I personally left Proton a month or so ago after the last bit of drama, in part out of principle, but also because their offering is just really expensive for my use case: I just want email, on a budget, with reasonable privacy. Plus I was tired of not having IMAP support and being locked into their clients. Moved to a Zoho business account (for now) and have been happy for the $12/yr. I already had a domain name, but they typically run <$20/year too.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I only use their Drive, I need a privacy focused alternative with a browser version in case I can't convince my family to download an app, any recommendations?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

What ashame, I thought the CEO should be poked in the eye with a blunt stick for his Trump support but I would've kept with Proton if the business and his personal views were kept seperate

It appears this is no longer the case, at least proton provides a lot of decent services I don't mind abusing for free now.

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