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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How come they have every procedural trick in the book, shown to them in the last four years, thrn drop it all the moment they have thr opportunity to use it?

Make them get 60 votes before they can order a pizza for an all-nighter. Turn renaming a courthouse into a month long revival of the Ringling Brothers Circus.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

If they wanted to, they would do it. They aren't doing it, which means they don't want to.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago

Yes, they were shown the procedural trick of not having a minority in both houses of congress and having a favorable Supreme Court. Once they learn those two small procedural tricks they’ll be unstoppable.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Primary all of these DINOs!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

The Dems need a Huey Long.

But their current voter base couldn't handle a Huey Long.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

I think we have to realize that we're in the ~~minority~~ opposition.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The DNC have always been collaborators to the billionaire class.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So is anybody who didn't vote for them.

If you don't like that those two things can be true at once, then go change the US electoral system.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No! Two things CANNOT be true at once, you have to pick between being a tankie or a Nazi or else you're a radical centrist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You aided and abetted a genocide.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Okay then you explain why the only acceptable position with regards to genocide is voting for the most maximalist version of it

.nazi

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It is astounding to me how far Americans can go down the fascist rabbit hole while still making it about the Dems. They will be marched to the camps whining all the way about why the Dems are letting it happen.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The DNC monopolised opposing the GOP so it kind of falls on them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I guess if that's how democracy reads in the US it explains a lot to how smoothly this whole process is going for the fascists. Good luck with that.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People focus on the Democrats instead of the Republicans because they still have hope the Democrats will actually do the right thing.

The Republicans have crossed the moral event horizon. They are irredeemably evil, complete monsters. Trying to influence them to change for the better is pointless, so that's why people don't bother to do it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

You didn’t state this explicitly, but it’s a fact that the U.S.’ political system only supports two parties. It’s easy to think U.S. voters can simply choose something else, especially for folks in countries with functional democracies, but in the U.S. voters are hostages. To a system that’s been honed for over two centuries to only support the hegemony of the ‘big 2.’
They get two viable options with this system. No more, and sometimes less.

Not voting is a thing that a plurality of citizens do, but those people aren’t working with the system. And beyond that, it’s revolution, which is also not working with the system. And I hate to say it but things aren’t quite bad enough for enough people for that to happen. Besides the incredible crackdown on people who wield their right to protest (felony trial charges?!?), the control over media and the internet keeps movements fractured and siloed. A felony conviction will more or less ensure your only job prospects for the rest of your life are unskilled jobs like manual labor and politician.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, too late.

You aren't trying to influence anybody. You are in the middle of a slow moving coup with next to zero institutional leverage because you botched the elections¡ so bad.

It's not on the Dems anymore, the US electorate made very sure that was the case. Anybody unsatisfied with the milquetoast liberal's resistance manual should be out on the streets flipping cars and enforcing a general strike, not whining online about how powerless dems are powerless. After the millionth time democrats don't call for those emergency actions it stops being their fault that the rest of the country is sitting and waiting for them to organize street-level opposition.

Ugh. Crap. This is what happens when you engage with American politics. I'm out for the sake of my general mental health. You guys figure it out. Wake me up when you've approved a new Constitution or the tanks are landing in Greenland.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just to be clear, I did not botch a damn thing; I voted for Harris.

Everything else you said, assuming you mean "you" as in Americans generally rather than attacking me personally, I agree with.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

But anyone can do the politics, the rallying the resisting. I don't see why you'd specifically ask the Democratic Party, unless you expect them to do some legislative thing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're saying it doesn't make sense that we use people closest to the problem to address the problem?

They're not saviors, they can't be the only ones doing it. But to not use them would be idiotic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, I'm very much saying the same thing. Presumably, folks in the Democratic Party have some amount of expertise in doing public talking and organizing, so involving them is great. But many of these pleas just sound like folks expect Democratic Party politicians to wave their wand and make it all good again, even though there is no wand, they don't have some special magic to make the politics happen. Every single person can just as well go out and organize. Every single person who's complaining about the Democratic Party not doing enough, should be doing things themselves.

Of course, I cannot know, if the person who made this post doesn't actually also do that. In principle, this post is rallying the Democratic Party.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Democratic part: We're only here for the power, not the work

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

They have the democratic mandate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That sounds like work, how about we just release a statement condemning it in a way that doesn't affect future electability