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    Amazing, every word of what you just said was wrong (lemmy.ml)
    submitted 1 week ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsMfNKcd298

    "I actually prefer Windows over Linux as a foundational systemβ€”I just don't like the Microsoft BS put on top of it. I think Windows is simply an easier and more straightforward system.

    Trying to get non-tech-savvy users to go through a long, complex install process? Come on. A lot of people on the internet forget that when most users get home, they just want to pay some bills, watch some YouTube, play a game, or do something simple and then get off the computer. They don't want to sit there dealing with a bunch of complex setup steps."

    Amazing every word of what you just said was wrong

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

    How old is this? I do all of that on my phone …

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

    I think Windows is simply an easier and more straightforward system.

    For example, list the processes on a windows system. Nobody has the faintest idea what half of them are. Do the same on Linux and there's maybe 10 you'll have to look up. Windows is a mess of interconnected and piled upon crud. Unix may not be perfect but at least it makes sense.

    [–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago

    Especially the part where it is claimed that users want to go home and pay bills. I have never once actually wanted to pay a bill.

    [–] parpol 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Install windows 11, installer takes 11 hours, run windows update for another 11 hours, restart, install drivers one by one from various websites for an hour, run windows update, restart, uninstall bloatware, restart, disable telemetry in 100s of menus, run windows update, restart, disable telemetry again after windows update re-enabled them, go to various websites to download your preferred applications, install them one by one, restart.

    Vs

    Install Linux Mint, installer takes 20 minutes, all drivers already there, no bloatware, open software manager, install all your applications from there, they can all be queued, no need to restart, done.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

    11h+? That's the small part.

    Every day you have to fight reboots, forced updates, installs and other crap. So multiply that with 365 per year.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

    I used to do that but windows 10 ltsc. Now i just restored from system image. I do a fresh install, install all the drivers, tweak anything that needed tweaking. Then, i made a full image backup. Once in blue moon if my windows is bork. I restored the system image.

    Im running fedora atm but its not all sunshine, sometimes when installing from software centre. It just hang at installing software. Bar not moving and i had to kill it manually and retry again.

    [–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    So he votes for Linux, where 90% of mainstream distros installers are literally

    • Choose disk
    • How much software? (Optional)
    • Username
    • Password
    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Hey now! You gotta at least set your timezone and keyboard layout, too.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

    Which for me is just pressing enter.

    I remember the old joke when Ubuntu was the hot new thing: If you put grain around the enter key, a chicken can install it.

    Nowadays it's true for every graphical installer. Hell, even NixOS can be installed by pressing enter (though good luck doing anything else after boot if you're a basic user).

    [–] AnAmericanPotato 8 points 1 week ago

    Installing apps on Windows is insane though.

    Either it's a custom installer with a dozen pointless steps, or it's in the Microsoft Store which doesn't even fucking work without PowerShell workarounds half the time.

    Any decent Linux distro is going to be much simpler for simple use cases. Particularly the ones that lean into Flatpak.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Where we run in to issues like is: user has gnome installed and wants to turn on file sharing, goes to the menu and serches for it, flips webdav on. Then they can't figure out that you need to install some packages for it to work, they get frustrated and gives up. Then they decide they need to connect their bluetooth headphones. They flip the bluetooth button. The button just springs back off. They have no idea they need to enable a background service for it to function. These are the type of issues the normal user gets mad at. Things they expect to work, but requires their tech support friend to help them.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Or... Hear me out... Might be controversial opinion but just try.

    Don't fucking install arch based distros. Just install Mint or Fedora plasma and be done.

    Zero fucking setup after install. The fedora workstation has so much pre installed and configured I cannot explain. Only gripe with fedora is the media codec bullshit because obviously AMERICAN CAPTALISM.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    As someone who runs an arch based disto, I agree. Arch (or endeavour is my case) is wonderful, but it certainly isn’t for everyone.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

    I run arch. I use vanilla arch (btw) it's the best. But that's because I am ready to put in the time. Not because it is inherently better.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

    Eh... What? That nevet happened to me. With every new laptop I just turn on Bluetooth, connect my mouse and am done with it.

    Did the users you mention accidentally compile Gentoo or something?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

    I get more frustrated when something works then suddenly doesn't

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsMfNKcd298

    One of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

    Just to clarify, I am laughing at what the person said at the start of the video about Linux. Not agreeing with them.