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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s a Masonic symbol, and Freemasonry was fashionable at the time

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Didn't they go secular because freemasonry is essentially gnostic and sees all religion as tending towards the divine realisation?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Something like that. IIRC, Franklin, Jefferson and such were deists, i.e. believing that there’s something godlike and numinous but that something is not the Abrahamic God or anything similar, but rather some kind of sacred principle of being or something.

IIRC, Freemasonry requires one to purport to believe in a supreme being, though that is so loosely defined that one can fill the gap with a tautological definition.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

"Our country has no preferential treatment for any religion"

"One nation under God"...

"In God we Trust"...

Eye of God on all 1$ bank notes...

[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i think the "under god" stuff was added later...

yeah, 1954

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Apparently the pledge wasn't even a thing until the late 1800s, and wasn't adopted until the 40s.

Seems like overall is an indicator of modern jingoism and has nothing to do with founding fathers...

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In God We Trust is also an objectively less cool motto than e pluribus unum which translates to out of many, one. We traded the original ideal of a people united by difference into a boringly generic religious proclamation just to try to stick it to the commies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

The beginnings of our current Christo-fascist problems in the McCarthy red scare.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

As an outsider I always cringe and laugh at anything related to these kinds of things done there and we see on tv. Random political people talking? Then they mention god and all stupid stuff. Justice things like on a judgment and people swear on bibles and shit like that. It's a cult, all of it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They don't specify a particular God

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The subtext is clear and not all religions believe in a single God and not believing in God is a religious preference when talking about a state not discriminating against or in favor of a specific religion.

[–] shiftymccool 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Except that Christianity is the only one with the hubris to take the generic term "god", slap a capital "G" on it, and call it the name of their god. Capital-G-God is the one that keeps being used, even by you...