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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Can we stop making random calls like this on social media? We need actual organization and leadership to be directing this stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 51 minutes ago

99% of people will never even know this is a thing. It's going to have more negative impact on low wage earners who show up than anything else.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Take charge then.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

This kind of organization doesn’t really work, you cant just set a day without a strong organized backing

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago

My first impulse on reading this stuff is "Who are you guys? I've never even heard of you before?"

Like, I definitely get the Think Big impulse but... this is reprint of a rallying cry from a lightly distributed Canadian Newspaper. Is this even directed at Americans? Idfk.

I might at least take this more seriously if I'd heard about it through my local DSA chapter rather than as a random graphic on the back corner of a small social media forum.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

You can always contact the organizers and constructively offer help, I’m sure they would welcome it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I wish you best of luck to fight against your authoritarian and early-fascist regime.

Nevertheless it's also possible to let the US burn down and join the united states of Europe. We need more (left) minded people as well before it's too late like in the US.

Banning Science and specific topics in education...that's how it began here in Germany

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

Really appreciate that. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck democracy. Let’s take this bitch by force.

— y’all

[–] slag 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 59 minutes ago)

Troll comment, but I'll bite. It's a fun opportunity for inappropriate analogies!

Winning with just shy of 50% on the total vote does not grant you a mandate from heaven to assfuck the other 51% of constituents. Consent of the governed and all that.

The losers accept a certain degree of non-consensual edging for the sake of getting along. Not how they'd like things, but as long as the pants stay on they can put up with it until the next election. If you start acting like you won the entire continent and the asses of the peasantry belong to you, you're probably gonna learn why the previous administrations didn't push the system that far.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Ya know eveytime I see these I wonder, "how did the Arabs do it?" They actually did something in Egypt. We can't even agree to take the same day off.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Significant organizational differences, as well. Egypt has a much more nationalized economy. Also, a lot of these movements are managed at the grassroots level through networks of mosques.

Americans - particularly the terminally online liberals - hate religious organizations. They're mostly corporate hacks or gig workers. And they think half the people in their social media channel are either cops or tankies or cops posing as tankies.

How do you organize on those grounds?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Good luck, he would probably win another election today. Cant save a democracy where the electorate is stupid.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

How do you think fascism arose in Germany? Was it a complex process set forth by the treaty of Versailles, embarrassment after WWI, rapid technological advancement by Germany, instability from the great depression, instability in the Weimar republic, etc...

Or do you really think fascism just comes out of the aether when somehow millions of voters become "stupid" all of a sudden?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 hours ago

We should probably try though, because of the implications.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Might be better off signing up here. They're trying to get commitments for a general strike.

They document working on narrowing their demands more specifically once they hit certain goals.

https://generalstrikeus.com/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

I signed up and asked about 20 people to sign it. ✊🏻

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago

I’ll Post It.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

What are they protesting? Its completely vague about why.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 14 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

While the full list of demands is still being added to, discussed, edited and submitted to a legal expert, some of our basic demands are as follows:

Protection and permanent guarantee of civil rights for all

Total government reform

Publicly funded health care

Adequate and accessible disability support and services

A permanent solution to Homelessness, hunger and the housing crisis

Respect and support for tribal Sovereignty and involvement with indigenous leadership for environmental action

Enhanced enforcement of constitutional rights

More power to american voters

I hope they get their full demands sorted out. A protest without immediate actionable legal demands is pretty doomed from the start. Especially one that encourages it's protestors to give something up. Unless we can have a moment where we can see a politician sign something into law the end of the protest will be vague and mired in "negotiations" until people have had enough and decide they need to start making money again without anything of consequence being accomplished.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I'm sorry, but that list is everything. Great, but literally everything. Not just protections for X and Y and Z, but literally "total government reform" as well. If your list of demands is so vague you'll never send a clear message and will struggle to gain support. I'm reminded of the Newsroom episode about Occupy Wall Street. You need clear leadership and direction. Something more concise like "civilian oversight commities in all branches with authority to order investigations and court trials" would be a huge move in the right direction. You need a clear addressing of the problem with realistic end goals and a way to get there - not a laundry list of hopes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

So, they want a new country?

I’m all for each of these things, but trying to have them happen all at once is ignorant. Do they think that making all these changes will make people glad? People hate change, and that’s one of the main reasons Trump was elected.

This strike feels like the 2016 election all over again, where left/liberals try to push for too much change and the population recoils into voting for regressive bigots.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

I think it's pretty interesting actually.

The top critic I'd point to, it's that for something so huge like that, it's needed a food chain which connects rural to urban areas established. That's the first thing.

After that other things can be looked up, like electricity, water supply, etc etc

Then a rupture with capitalist system can be created, but it needs to be understood that "nonviolent direct action" isn't an option! At the first trial on labor strikes, capitalists will crush it with all their forces and repression skill

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago

Well, that's a Saturday so I won't be doing anything anyway.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Why would they not be able to ignore this? They're already beating their own country's economy with a stick. Something I think a lot of foreigners don't understand is that the US Federal Government doesn't own the US Industry, they police it.

Whats going to happen? They're going to lose like 0.25% tax revenue for the year and run out of funding for all the programs they run? OHWAIT, they're already not funding those programs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

form an affinity group

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone bickering in this thread needs to just repost this image somewhere and shut up. That's how these things spread, via small communities. The only reason I saw it was this post, the only reason someone else might learn about it is my post. Unless you already have a better idea, and are organizing and trying to promote it, the least you can do is try and spread the word. The only way we win is together, so either bring a better solution to the table or get in line and help us fight.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

A single day? And a weekend at that? Did Trump pick the date? Lol

That's not gonna do shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

A weekend means that lots and lots of people who would get fired if they missed work to protest will get to protest.

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