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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Grow a spine and make it 100 percent. The quicker trumps masters learn it wont work the better.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's an emotional response. You don't win with emotion, you win with a pragmatic strategy.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tariffs hurt the country imposing them the most

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Now that is a leader! His comments underline the senselessness of these tariffs:

“If President Trump wants to usher in a new ‘golden age’ for the United States, the better path is to partner with Canada not to punish us. Canada has the ingredients necessary to build a booming and secure partnership for the North American economy and we stand at the ready to work together.”

“We will stand strong for Canada. We will stand strong to ensure our countries continue to be the best neighbours in the world.”

How could you not ask for a better friend even when you're (US) being an asshole?

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[–] [email protected] 146 points 2 days ago (19 children)

The Trump administration says it put the tariffs in place to force China, Mexico and Canada to stop the spread and manufacturing of fentanyl, in addition to pressuring Canada and Mexico to limit any illegal immigration into the United States.

Can anyone else see any actual logic to this? Do the Trump Republicans really believe this, or are they just saying it? What do they really want to achieve, apart from Trump being able to see himself as a tough guy?

[–] [email protected] 134 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There's no logic to it at all. It's absolutely not about that.

Almost no fentanyl is getting into the US from Canada. A vanishingly small amount of illegal immigration occurs through the Canadian border.

It's just fascism and imperialism.

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

Saw a policy expert say it's a mixture of 3 things really:

  1. Trump likes to blame outsiders for problems and this is well received by his loyal base and gives off strongman vibes
  2. long term plan to switch from income tax (scales the more you earn) to consumption taxes (the poorer you are the more you pay for for consumption, relatively speaking) which benefits the rich at the expense of the poor. this wealth transfer is easier to sell when the populace is focused on outsiders
  3. Trump doesn't understand basic economics

source: https://youtu.be/2I1L1fXaYDs?feature=shared

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Does this break/invalidate the existing free trade agreements between the countries? Does this mean that NAFTA and TRUMPFTA are now void?

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Hopefully this trade war doesn't devolve into an actual war....

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If it were an actual shooting war, Canada would have to surrender within days. Virtually the entire population lives within a two hour drive of the border, and the US military is orders of magnitude bigger than the Canadian military.

But, while the US could easily conquer Canada militarily, the guerilla war would be another matter.

The US/Canadian border is the longest land border in the world. The US could do nothing to stop Canadians from entering the US. And, once Canadians were inside the US, there's no way to tell a Canadian from an American. South Park lied, not all Canadians have floppy heads. Once inside the US, guns are freely available to everybody. Plus, the market is so open, it's easy to get what you need to make bombs.

So, imagine the "Troubles" in Northern Ireland, but spread out throughout the entire US. The American psyche is not prepared for that. Americans have been in all kinds of wars, but the last time Americans had a war on home soil was the US Civil War. Just look at the overreaction to a mere 3000 people dying on September 11th. Decades later and the ripples are still being felt.

And, that's not even considering that probably more than half the US wouldn't support an attack on Canada, and a significant fraction would help Canadians with sabotage and other guerilla activities.

As chaotic and norms-breaking as Trump is, I have to think someone would stop him before he actually went into a shooting war with Canada.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Personnaly I would put a mirror tarrif. Tax the stuff going out to USA. Canadian economy will slow down, don't make life more expensive for Canadians. And that way Americans might notice it faster if they pay 50 percent more.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is what we get now that prats are running the US economy on adolescent IQs and emotions.

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