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[–] [email protected] 186 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Personally, I think that the discussion around this will evolve as the news spreads, but I agree with Robert on this one. Sure, X/Twitter has become a less welcoming place than before, but shutting out a significant portion of your community without seeking their input first isn't a sensible move for such a foundational open source project.

Nah, I think I'm cool if Debian doesn't respect the input of Nazi sympathisers.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 18 hours ago

Yeah what the fuck is with that.

It's a very twitter centric view of the web. If you're not on xitter you're "shutting out a significant portion".

The thing is, it's not simply that Musk has an ideology that is disparate from my own, he has an agenda that is egregiously contrary to the stated values of the Debian project.

You'd consult with the community over a new logo or blog layout maybe, but on whether to assist Musk in his far right agenda there's not really any decision to be made honestly.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah, that section is bad.

For one, it's has classic vibe "if you want to keep the nazis out, you're the one who's exclusionary".

But also, how is refusing to engage on a platform "shutting out a significant portion of [the] community"? That sounds backwards to me. Blocking people from engaging with Debian on its own platforms would be shutting them out. The implication in the article is that Debian is obligated to be unconditionally present on every social platform its users might be on.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 17 hours ago

... Debian was on twitter??

[–] [email protected] 63 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I don't mind, actually everyone should ditch Twatter.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (6 children)

& all the US-based corporate social media… Facebook, Instagram, Threads, WhatsApp, Snapchat, Reddit, Discord, LinkedIn, & GitHub.

The VC-funded ones too like BlueSky

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I've managed to ditch every single one of those except LinkedIn. We simply CANNOT get new clients without it. The lockin to that platform is truly terrifying. LinkedIn is a crime against humanity.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 17 hours ago

all of the corporate social media tbh. federation is the way out of this cycle.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

In any case, RSS should be enough.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I still don't think I understand the full utility of RSS. I guess it's good for forum communication too?

Because my first thought was "RSS is cool but first we need human-written content and blogs to come back."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

RSS to know when there's a new post on the blog.

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[–] [email protected] 166 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 43 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Came here to make this joke. Was an hour too late...

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Does Wayland has its own Mastodon instance? If yes, they could do a funny.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Yeay, Debian user here who also left Twitter/X for similar reasons. I was already on Mastodon and Bluesky but didn't make a habit out of it. Leaving the bad platform entirely (and having my data archived and searchable) helped a lot.

Glad to hear they moved on!

[–] [email protected] 36 points 18 hours ago

As it turns out, having an account on a social media platform full of Nazis, violent racists, and child diddlers is not good for business.

[–] joshcodes 66 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

I keep making the incorrect assumption that everyone has already left X. Just seems common sense we've hit all hands abandon ship

[–] [email protected] 37 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's just Debian, always behind.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago

ok, that's just hilarious :P

The equivalent of IE being the last one to move to the fediverse lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Never underestimate the network effect and how reluctant people are to move to another social network. The masses just follow the crowd, so every big account moving out from there helps take more users away.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 16 hours ago

Great news, Thank you Debian community!

[–] [email protected] 106 points 22 hours ago (3 children)
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[–] ericjmorey 4 points 12 hours ago

Unfortunately the accounts listed under Social network accounts of Debian teams and Social network accounts of Debian contributors are almost exclusively Twitter accounts.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I don't like how people are trying to stir up dissent and drama around this. The message posted is short and on point, it includes all the important bits. There really isn't much more to add.

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