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Epic Games CEO Confirms Alan Wake 2 Never Coming To Steam (tech4gamers.com)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

I hope someone Remedies this situation.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

🏴‍☠️

[–] pythonoob 6 points 2 days ago

Guess I'll never get it then.

[–] kn0wmad1c 10 points 2 days ago

Here's the thing about CEOs: they're beholden to a board of people who like money

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Yarrr!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Damn shame the decision Remedy made to get the funding from Epic looks like it has backfired (since as I understand it AW2 still hasn't turned a profit). I truly hope this doesn't affect their upcoming games as Alan Wake 2 is one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had and I want for nothing more than Remedy to keep doing what they're doing.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Aye aye!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

This kind of thing happened with "American Nightmare" and "Quantum Break". While I'm not aware of any formal policy that Remedy has, I suspect this happens because they're a smaller shop trying to leverage whatever they can.

[+] [email protected] -9 points 2 days ago (20 children)

Why do people love Steam's DRM on everything, online only gameplay? Why do people love Steams totalitarian control and extortion deals?

If people could built their own Steam client, it wouldn't be so bad. I use Heroic on Windows for both Epic and GOG and get new games through Heroic so there can't be telemetry or data gathering. Why won't Valve allow a libre/free software Steam client to play games and let go of what people choose to install on their computer. I'm nit asking for DRM-free games, I'm asking ti stop dictator how I am allowed to play games.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

its the best platform I use to organize my games that only gets better and doesn't actively try to screw me with bullshit at every turn. once someone outdoes steam, I'll reward that company with my money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I do not buy games on Steam, only on 3rd party sites for a Steam key so Valve never gets money from me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

sweeney is that you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't love Steam's DRM at all, but theirs is the least obtrusive platform, and Gabe demonstrably understands that, and I quote the man himself, "Piracy is almost always a service problem, and not a pricing problem."

Admittedly I'm not happy about the near-monopoly they have on the PC gaming market, particularly because it'll be a sad day indeed if Valve ever goes public and starts pulling scummy moves like Epic, among other platforms. But I'm happy to spend money with a business that treats its employees and customers like people and not untapped resources.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Piracy is because of price.

Read the documents from the court case against Valve, such as their email communication. Valve got to this level by extortion and bullying.

I do not buy games through Steam store, I will never buy a game directly from Valve.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

There is a weird cult around steam, they literally can't do wrong, and even if they do, well it was deserved. Dunno how that happened but it really does hurt me when games on gog aren't updated for months for no reason but steam.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

you're just going to interpret this is as proving you right and me as a cultist but the thing about no updates on gog is nothing to do with steam that's the publisher steam doesn't make them do that there's no reason it's the publisher/developers I don't think valve can do no wrong but I would say steams never done anything bad to me valve includes gambling in all their multiplayer games that are full of children they were one of the earliest companies to make loot boxes their business model though arguably even worse as they gave all the tools for an external economy for those skins and gave the crates out abundantly to encourage you to buy the keys because you already have the crate but the steam division in valve has provided me with a consistently great experience in every way games on there own launcher almost always just work on linux refunds are trivial family sharing is great for making it even cheaper I don't like drm and I'd use gog more if they didn't kinda suck from a user perspective but even with heroic playing games on gog is a little jank on linux in a way it just isn't with steam and gog has literally no family sharing I don't play games from the shared library much but I like having it when I do and my siblings actually do play some games from my library a fair bit steam/valve is a company like any others that ultimately cares about profit not me or any other customer but unlike other companies they understand the value of long term thinking and good customer relationships they don't care about me but they know I'm more likely to keep coming back and buying loads of games if they don't keep trying to screw me over and add lots of good features that save me money and make my experience better

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There were a few games that explained slow updates with "just download them on steam" when asked, ofc it's not on steam that publishers are lazy. Publishers are lazy because steam has such an overwhelming majority that they can ignore customers on other platforms. I do prefer gog because they are drm free and offline, so in the inevitable crash of global internet i will have my oldie games, lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

that's still the publisher not steam and honestly a bit gog that they let them get away with that you can't blame steam and customers largely using the better platform for awful publishers scamming people on a different platform

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

A blind fanatical devotion to Steam/Valve.

As a sound, allow people to develop a libre/open source client to play games from that client, there would be a different perception.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Its because the industry is full of companies that are so much worse than Valve. Gamers are used to companies like EA, Valve are saints in comparison to the other major players.

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