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The comments didn't seem bad to me. Some people were complaining about an HP laptop's power efficiency, but the framework's is fine. Also, the intel ones have noisier fans, but the amd is perfectly quiet in daily use. I have two real complaints with mine: while the power draw is low in use, it uses idle sleep, so it doesn't last that long asleep (longer than awake, so a few days to a week). You can of course power it off for longer term stuff, and boot times aren't bad so that really isn't a huge issue for me. The other one was a bit of a pain until I found the solution. All of the integrated amd GPUs from that gen have a problem on linux where they randomly get buggy and the whole ui drops to like 2 fps. It is resolved with a kernel parameter (sounds complicated but takes 5 min and a reboot. I will edit this with the steps when I get to my laptop). The frameworks generally improve over time. I wouldn't get a 16 yet, but my brother and I both got 13 amds several months ago and are very happy with them.

Edit: Nearly forgot, it came with an "AMD" (mediatek) wifi card. I replaced it with an ax210 as soon as I got it and would recommend you do the same. Amd requires laptop manufacturers to put the amd card in but it kinda sucks IMO.

I've been using a framework since the first edition they've released and it worked great. Theyve only gotten better since.

I've got a 13 with Intel Ultra and it's a good machine.

I've found linux support to be stupendous. I am running fedora silverblue and I can't think of anything that didn't work out of the box.

Even the fingerprint sensor!!!

Framework has really great forums and pages dedicated to linux. I even get firmware updates through ufw no problem.

Great build quality, amazing repairability, performance for the price is pretty decent. The keyboard is even pretty good.

It's probably one of my favorite laptops I've ever used.

I've been cheering for Framework more or less since they first started shipping machines. I'm on MacOS and only use Linux on NUC-style machines and VMs, but if I was ever gonna buy a non-Mac laptop, I'd go to them.

Don't think you'd regret it. I can't speak for that one in particular, but I'm still running one of the DIY Kickstarter versions. Will probably replace it with another Framework (or maybe even just upgrade the components if I can).

I too am considering a framework 13, and am wondering the same. Hopefully someone will give some insight.

For people with experience with any mobile 12th gen intel and the framework 13 AMD, can you quantify what you think the upgrade is worth or would it be better to wait for a refresh to the "ai" series if that ever happens.

I look at the price for board/ram/wifi upgrade and struggle to justify even though I expect the amd cpu to be cooler/quieter and have much better iGPU. I know it should easily outperform the steam deck in raw performance so with some scaling it should be reasonable for some light casual gaming but I don't have any experience with amd outside of desktop cpus and dedicated graphics. Every time I consider an upgrade it makes more sense to buy desktop upgrades and cope with the intel system for a few more years. I don't have a good use for the intel mainboard as it doesn't have much expansion, multiple ssd, pcie etc.

It's probably good if that is the sort of thing you are after, a laptop just isn't something I want to spend real money on myself.

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It's spelled Y-E-A.

I've had one for a few months now and it works really well. The only issue that I've had was that I expected Linux to run well on it, but it seems like AMDs Linux support has been overstated, and gnome would crash entirely when browsing certain websites like Tumblr, I assume because of some poorly supported video format. Everything runs fine on windows and it's been a solid laptop so far. Obviously it's not going to be the best for gaming, but the integrated graphics will handle lighter workloads fine and I'm hoping that it'll save me money in the long run from the much cheaper cost of repairing vs having to buy a new laptop after 5 years.