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Tuna melts and how to go viral. That's all we're getting. (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

The Problem with the left is that they actually have different opinions. The right is just different shades of Nazis. The left is a bunch of fundimentally different approaches to make the world the world a better place. Therefore, of course the Nazis are going to win.

What we are talking about is the paradox of inclusivity. Either the 99% oppress the 1%, or the 1% oppress the 99%. From an ethical, a democratic, a Constitutional, and an ecological standpoint, oppressing the 1% would be the right thing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

The Left seems to be made of up a bunch of different coalitions that can’t agree on the priorities to enact. People are for something but they can’t agree on what.

The Right seems to be made up of a bunch of different coalitions that can’t agree on the priorities to repeal. People are against something but can’t agree on what. They also have Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You Americans get what you asked for

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

And what political paradise do you belong to?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago

Why so you can run it down to make yourself feel better about living in a shit hole?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

People really fucking blame Democrats for not being in charge after those same people don't vote for them, goddamn clown country.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Most the people I know that did vote for them blame them for not being in charge. Yes, it is a clown country.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 13 hours ago

They're not exactly helping elect their chosen candidates by flaming them online.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Dems gross incompetence is the exact reason they can't get enough votes to win what should have been the easiest election of all of our lifetimes

[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

What policy issue do you disagree with them on?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Sustaining genocide in Gaza is a big one. Kamala's campaign was literally told by a sizeable number of voters that they wont vote for her unless she opposes it. It's the primary reason Kamala lost the election. And that's before mentioning that the Democratic convention didn't even give the greater party the ability to choose a candidate. The only choices were Biden and Kamala, and neither offered any worthwhile promise to their voter base. They just hit the "were not Trump" angle expecting to automatically win because of it.

On top of that- Failing to enshrined any trans-rights or abortion protections into law is a big one. They're also just as anti-worker as Republicans. Biden is the one who shutdown the rail strike, claiming the workers were "too necessary" to allow them to strike.

Democrats don't actually care about the causes they supposedly champion. So why should voters pretend like they do?

And as a preemptive comment: obviously Trump and Republicans are fascists. But the majority of Dems in power have more in common with their coworkers than they do with their average voter.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago

Not sure anyone has ever presented solid evidence that Kamala would have won if not for the Gaza issue. Most agree it was a contributing factor, but not a determening one. Which is scary when you think about it - the real reasons she lost appear to be more nuanced and more deeply related to general cynicism, ignorance and apathy.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Congratulations, Trump is in office and Israel is gunning down Lebanon citizens and buying 1000 lbs bombs again for the first time in years, news outlets saying Israel is prepping to annex and settle even more lands in the Gaza strip.

You failed to back the peacekeepers and now so much more blood will be on your hands as a result.

The only option is all hands on deck, push the envelope even if we don't agree with whats in it. We can have campaign finance reform and tax the rich if you would only do that one thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

What peacekeeper? Biden was supplying the genocide too. It's a principled stance. We won't vote for genocide whether it's red or blue running the show. And no, the blood isn't on my hands since I didn't approve, or purposely give my tax money to Israel. Biden, and now Trump are doing that.

On top of that the Biden administration had 4 years and confirmation by the Supreme Court he could essentially do whatever he wanted as president. And he still did nothing but had over the case to a DoJ that did fuck all about it.

Also you glossed over my other points of Biden's failures.

Edit: You also realize Israel was literally bombing civilians in Lebanon when Biden was president right? Or did you alreadh forget ablut the pager bombs Israel planeted in Lebanon? And Biden still gave them a shit ton of weapons, and only effectively blocked one type of weapons shipment as a political maneuver.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I literally just told you: Israel is buying more and bigger weapons than ever. Your ignorance of that simple fact, that the genocidal Israeli government backed Trump for presidency specifically so they could be even more violent, just shows you don't care about all of the women and children who die as a result.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

And I'm telling you the genocide is largely unchanged. The only difference is the names on the weapons heading into Israel and the rhetoric. But anyone paying attention knows that the rhetoric changes nothing. The only difference is that the US is mask off about supporting genocide now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

And the size and the amount of those weapons. And that the new admin explicitly sides with Israel expansion.

So basically just the thousands more people who will be killed, as a direct result of people like you refusing to support the alternative, aside from that no difference.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

An amount that is largely the same, and the bombs that were already sent from Biden leveled the vast majority of Gaza along with its population. You've also failed to address any of the other points I've made, so this is where I stop wasting my time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

No, Biden admin did not sell *2000 lbs bombs to Israel. SOURCE

[–] [email protected] 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

What do you expect from a party that has no power? Honestly Republicans should be more pissed off, they have all 3 branches of government and they're doing symbolic bullshit with 0 chance of success to appeal to Trump specifically, and it'll work because he never watched School House Rock. Not that I'm complaining.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

the constitution only matters if the people who enforce it actually decide to.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago

The right found themselves someone who champions their values in as much the same way as the left finds a champion in the Roosevelts.

I think it's pendulum swinging to the right in general as is nature of politics. Hopefully it won't last long and someone doesn't stick a knife to stop the pendulum swinging back. There is still plenty of hope considering that many Americans are still resisting. I don't know who is who in both the Senate and the House, but I'm sure the Democrats will vote down the proposal to allow a third term to a president, and a Republican one at that.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The fact that people actually believe that this is all the democrats are currently doing clearly illustrates exactly why we had so many protest voters.

It seems as if the far left won’t ever be convinced of anything unless it-

A) Agrees with what they already believe
B) Is in an easy-to-read meme format
C) Comes from their communal clipboard of copypasta marxist rhetiric.

I’m incredibly angry that trump won, but not at all surprised. These people make up not just a portion of our voting body, but also a huge portion of our NON-voting body.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 23 hours ago

The Democratic Party is in a timeloop for thirty years if they believe that courting centrists and right wing voters still work in the age of growing wealth inequality. Actually, forget that, the Democrats still want to court centrists and the right in order to send signal to the true rulers that are oligarchs, that they are just as right wing as the Republicans in order to keep receiving corporate donations and make money from stocks.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (20 children)

What are they doing? Wait I'll do you one better. What else can they do, but re-evaluate what they've been doing?

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can someone explain me what was the tuna melt moment? All I get is literal tuna sandwiches in the Google search

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah, if that's the most viral they went in the last 5 years, they're in trouble. I don't remember anything like that happening either.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it was that time Biden walked into a Subway and said "you're telling me a tuna melted this sandwhich?" and everyone laughed

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Dear lord. I guess that explains everything about how the Democrats failed to win. They live in a different world.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Something something enjoy your republican overlords for the rest of time.

Seriously what the fuck is the democratic party doing anymore. It seriously feels like the second Obama left they collectively forgot what the fuck they were doing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

It's because they had nothing to do with Obama. Obama was the result of the last honest primary with no fuckery, and the DNC immediately regretted it. They wanted Hillary to get the nomination in '08, so they forced her through in '16.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I spend WAY too much time online and see all the stupid viral videos because of it, and I pay attention to politics a LOT more than the average American does getting their hour of ~~news~~ propaganda from billionaire-owned media each night from the TV and facebook posts from their bubble of "friends".

What fucking viral Tuna Melt moment?

Only 80 year old geriatric with dementia would consider that viral, wait.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Can't someone make a new party that actually represents working class people and just get rid of Democrats? By many other countries politics, Democrats look more right than left

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Democrats have political and financial capital, which tend to be powerful assets in running a successful campaign. Any new party needs to:

Inform the general population that they exist
Inform the general population what their platform is
Persuade the general population that their platform is desirable
Convince the general population that they're capable of implementing their platform

These are not trivial tasks, made more difficult without a track record or money.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Without a PAC funded by the ultra rich no unapproved canidate will ever make it to the ballot.

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

You could also just vote in any mix of dems and indies to get 60 votes needed to pass the H.R. 1 For The People Act and also undo the damage caused by the Citizens United decision.