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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Italians rule. First Luigi, now these guys

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If Elon was just doing a Roman salute, then Luigi was just doing an Italian goodbye, right? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Is the Italian Prime Minister #Meloni not a "friend" of Elon musk?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Italian left is awesome. The Italian right belongs upside down at a gas station

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The fuck are you talking about?? Our left party (PD - partito democratico) Is one of the whiniest and most useless party in the world, unable to pick up the class fight in favour of the working class and hellbent in carrying out the sistemic destruction of any real opposition to the current ruling class. Look into its management, Ellie Schlein, its current head, is the most vapid and personality-deprived politicians we've seen in the past 20 years, and I'm including Fassino in this list which should say a lot if you know Italian politics

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Mostly about how about a hundred years ago yall flooded my hemisphere with badasses

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"No violence is justifiable" - People who protect Nazis

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

[Redacted] Nazis ain't violence. It's just taking out the trash.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I know you're joking but I don't like this take, even as a joke. They're people, and hurting them is violence. It just also happens to be the right course of action.

Honestly, punching a nazi is the most loving thing you can do for them in the moment that they're being nazis, because it shatters their delusion of superiority, and that gives them a chance to change, and a life of hate is not a good life. It's miserable.

You ever see this gif?

Honestly an improvement in that guy's life. Witnesses said he took off his armband after he woke up. Did he lose his fascist ideas, or just learn they were extremely unpopular and got a violent reaction? Whatever it was, he learned that going around dressed as a nazi was a bad idea, and that's progress however you slice it.

So rather than "nazis aren't people" I prefer "punching a nazi is an act of love".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wow, that punch was very satisfactory. I agree that we should be punching Nazis and neo Nazis

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I love everything about it. The "excuse me, sir, please be reasonable" gesture, the absolute unit of a punch, the way he drops like a sandbag, the clap, and the fact that no witnesses saw anything happen.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

If you do a search for this story there are almost no American media outlets reporting on it.

[–] msage 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Just a small reminder that italians voted Mussolini's niece to the government.

So they also swing both ways.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The article says...

...where the Tesla and SpaceX CEO made two stiff-armed salutes that many interpreted as a fascist gesture.

Can't say I care for that characterization. Half the world is trying to gaslight me about this but my fucking eyes work.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The local TV here in Portugal also did the whole saying "that some consider a Nazi salute" thing in their news segment about this ...

... and then showed Elon's salute and a bunch of Nazis doing Nazi salutes as examples, leaving nobody in the audience but the blind in any doubt that Elon's salute was the same as the salutes that the Nazis did.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Journalists are way too quick to 'both sides" stuff. (Not sure how much of an American problem it is.) I don't think I've seen a single article that didn't include the quote from those asinine Nazi sympathizers at the ADL.

THIS, I like. Sure, maybe you have to report that he claims it isn't. But bring receipts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The problem is they never want to be wrong and unless Elon comes out and says it was a Nazi salute publically the media dances around it. The right knows this and plays the game pretty well.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This sort of chickenshit faux neutrality is why people are losing faith in corporate media.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

That's a good look for fascists.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Now that's how your protest.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My great grandfather's buddy took the Mussolini corpse photos while they walked through and sold them to Time magazine, it's sort of a 6 degrees of separation thing but still a fun fact

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (3 children)

My grandfather didn't get any close-ups with historic fascists, but he did shoot two Nazi planes out of the sky.

And then my mom and dad voted Trump.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Yeah sometimes badassery skips a generation

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Clearly they haven't seen famous antifa media like 'Saving Private Ryan', 'Band of Brothers', or 'Come and See' due to those flims being too radical.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

American propaganda pretending the Nazis are the devil and the USA saved the world is the reason this shit is happening.

If USA propaganda had taught instead that Hitler admired the USA's segregation policy, and that popular opinion in the USA was way more favorable to him than anyone wants to admit, maybe things wouldn't be as bad.

The Nazis didn't pop out of nowhere being evil. They were just random blokes with evil ideology. Forgetting this makes it too easy to say "but he hasn't killed 30m people, he's not that bad!".

Germany at least threw the failed painter in jail after the first coup attempt, Yankees couldn't even do that with their golfer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

This is why I think Nazi America + Nukes will be much worse than Nazi Germany could ever dream of being. Only time and apathy will tell.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

I'm 40 this year I may just be getting too old but what does Based mean? I searched for it online previously and the explanation confused me but I see it everywhere along with cap/no cap and bet.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not much younger than you, but I got you on the definitions.

I’d say based is more or less the opposite of the kids calling things cringe. Speaking truth to power is definitely based.

Cap means a lie or posing. It can be used as a verb to accuse someone of lying to (i.e. “You’re capping”). To say no cap means “I’m dead serious”.

Bet is basically an analog to ok.

This slang all essentially comes from hip-hop and the surrounding culture around it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thanking you kindly! I hear some of it at work but am often perplexed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

One thing I'd like to add: based only really works with things that are at least vaguely political or controversial, it's not just a drop-in for "cool" (and it's also used ironically a lot)

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Musk [...] dismissed the backlash, saying, "Frankly they need better dirty tricks. The 'everyone is Hitler' attack is soo tired."

Someone end this man plz

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Luigi was a good start but too bad the rest of us are cowards.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

December 4th 2024, the day shit rolled uphill.

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