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How can I go back to using Google Drive, Gmail, downloading the WhatsApp application, trusting proprietary software in general?

How can I go back to convenience knowing what I know now? Constantly aware that I'm trading my privacy and my data for convenience? Why must this road be so arduous?

Genuinely struggling with this, how do you all manage? Do you just accept it and use this stuff trying to minimize how much information on yourself you give away? Or have you resigned to self-hosted email and wood cabins (unable to fully interface with payment systems, government bureaucracy, modern technology)?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 22 hours ago

Do you need to go back? What exactly are you going back from? Is it not serving your needs? There are plenty of alternatives to Google services; I'd be happy to provide some suggestions, if you'd like, having been through this ever since The Snowden Affair.

[–] gaspar_petersen 18 points 22 hours ago

I don't let perfect be the enemy of good. I do my best to be as private as possible, but if my work or any other external factor requires me to surrender some data, I will probably end up giving in. And I think that's okay.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago

Allegory of the cave moment.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago

And why do you need to go back?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago

I just do what is easy for me, some things are not worth the hassle of switching to a privacy focused alternative.

For example replacing google drive with Syncthing was really easy for my use cases. Gmail was easy with my own domain and a good email service.

Other things like facebook/reddit, banking, telegram, discord, etc.. I don't worry about it because the hassle factor is extreme.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Make maintainable changes to the services you use and your behavior/habits related to privacy. Go at a gradual pace that won't interupt your daily life.

Worry about things that you can control. You can only do your best. It doesn't have to be perfect. You might not be 100% secure and private, but that doesn't mean you have to make it easy to be tracked.

Start with low hanging fruit and easy changes.

Like switching web browsers; installing adblocking and privacy oriented addons (jShelter is a good one); switching to a more private search engine; setting privacy settings in apps and services; using strong, unique passwords and a password manager; replacing more and more software that you use with FOSS alternatives; use a good VPN.

If you're ready for it, get or build a NAS and self host instead of using cloud-based services. Set up a pihole server for network-level protection from trackers and ads.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

It feels like a constant battle. I self host whatever I can and try to keep it simple. Will never be ideal I think. Far too many people and organizations want our data. Just have to take it one day at a time.