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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) lost her bid to lead Democrats on the House Oversight Committee, defeated 131-84 by Rep. Gerry Connolly in a secret caucus vote.

Reports suggest former Speaker Nancy Pelosi actively lobbied against AOC, backing Connolly by making calls and using political capital to sway votes.

Connolly, 74, cited his experience and record as decisive factors in his victory, despite progressive disappointment over AOC’s loss.

Supporters viewed AOC’s bid as a chance to revitalize Democratic strategy, calling the outcome a missed opportunity for the party.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

[Supporters viewed AOC’s bid as a chance to revitalize Democratic strategy, calling the outcome a missed opportunity for the party.]

While it would be great to see AOC win this, the reporter is really overstating things in order to drive engagement. The House Oversight Committee has a limited area of responsibility, so how would AOC "revitalize Democratic strategy" in any general way? Why can't AOC "revitalize Democratic strategy" in a general way without being head of this committee? Other Dems will either listen to her or they won't.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

And they put a 78 year old with esophageal cancer in charge.

Fuck the dems. I’m done voting for them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

And they put a 78 year old with esophageal cancer in charge.

Who the fuck are you talking about?

Hakeem Jeffries is 54 years old. He's in charge of the Democratic Caucus. Pelosi has been retired for years. She has no power. AOC lost by 50 votes. There is no way Pelosi caused that. She was only included in the headline as clickbait to troll people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakeem_Jeffries

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago

Gerry connolly, nancy pelosi’s pick for head of the oversight committee, is 74 and had esophageal cancer.

Pay attention.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, but that's not the dude who won. He did: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Connolly

At least it seems to me that's the guy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

She got sacked over the fact that she doesn’t oppose incumbents being primaried… In find it so ironic that a party labeled as democratic refuses the simple act of choosing leaders via on popular vote…

One issue Ocasio-Cortez had to confront was her past support for primary challengers to incumbent House Democrats — a sore subject for many lawmakers.

https://www.axios.com/2024/12/17/aoc-loses-gerry-connolly-democrats-oversight

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This is exactly how Rep. Pelosi is going to run again unopposed in two years

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Primarying incumbents who wouldn't go along with them is how the far right took control of the GOP so of course the DNC is scared. That's exactly how we can take control of it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Jeez and they wonder why they lose elections, first Bernie, now AOC.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago

The DNC broke every fundraising record they previously had. They only lost the election by our metrics, they all got fabulously paid this year.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago

They're not losing elections. They're improving value to shareholders.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago

[Both feet profusely bleeding from shooting off each toe] "I'm good to run for 4 more years!"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Pelosi is a fucking joke, and its insane that the democratic party bends over backwards to kiss the ass of a corpse that encapsulates all of their failings, rather than embrace young populists within the party.

Democrats lose when they allow their rich donors and geriatic leadership to make decisions that should be made by the voters, or at least in accordance with the best interest of the voters.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Pelosi is a fucking joke, and its insane that the democratic party bends over backwards to kiss the ass of a corpse that encapsulates all of their failings, rather than embrace young populists within the party.

Nobody cares what Pelosi thinks about anything. Nobody changed their vote because Pelosi called them. Her name was included in the title as a clickbait headline to troll people.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago

Right, it’s not like she has a reputation as an incredibly powerful influence in the party or anything. /s

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

No, I have not talked to all 131 people who voted against AOC. But unfortunately she would have needed 50 more votes to win. There is no way Pelosi caused AOC to lose. She is not the Speaker and has no power anymore. But the person who wrote this article knew that by including the word "Pelosi", they could get more people to read the story.

I would advise people to find out how their own congressperson voted. And if they voted for the wrong person than call their office. You have just as much of a voice as Pelosi does.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Absolutely pathetic that Democrats elected a 74 year old with ethical issues with insider trading and esophageal cancer as the leader.

Really putting the Democratic party looking towards the future and ensuring they have a new vision that might actually win them elections with this new face forward.

God, Democrats are stupid and corrupt.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The last thing a crook like polosi wants in power is someone who is at heart a decent person.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago

Nobody cares what Pelosi wants. Her name was included in the title as clickbait trolling.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

This will cause quite a stir.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

Nah, they'll all just sit and take it and so will we.

We have thusfar.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

The Democrats are a deeply unserious party even as fascism approaches. They might get what they deserve but the rest of us will have to suffer because of their arrogance. Again.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The Democrats promoted Trump's words because they thought he would be an easy victory. It just gave him free ad time and enabled dipshits to vote for him.

The Democrats promoted Trump's actions in ads because it raised campaign revenue for the 2018 Midterms and 2020. Dipshits just saw them and went "He's hurting the people I hate, based and redpilled!!"

The Democrats copied Republican talking points with COVID, Trans people, police brutality and funding, the border "crisis" and then wondered why a fascist voting base doesn't want a non-white woman running on the platform of "Back to 2016 Trump's America".

They would rather have fascists run America because fascists don't hurt the bottom line and don't threaten the rich, only the working class.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago

The Democrats copied Republican talking points with COVID, Trans people, police brutality and funding, the border “crisis”

I don't remember any of that happening.

a non-white woman running on the platform of “Back to 2016 Trump’s America”.

Treason Trump gave rich people and corporations a gigantic tax cut and raised taxes people making under 75k. Kamala was going to raise taxes on corporations and lower taxes on the middle classes. Tax rates are the #1 thing everyone should be focusing on because wealth inequality is the driver of almost all other problems.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago

They will let fascists take over as long as it means they don't need to share their wealth.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

74? Man, I'm so tired of these old fucks... Except Bernie. That guy actually represents his constituents.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I would vote for the ghost of Bernie Sanders. I’m not talking about a hypothetical ghost either because Bernie isn’t a fucking liar and wouldn’t want folks to have faith that he exists. He’d fly right up to the microphone with that badass accent of his and let the assholes have it just like he does now, only with supernatural powers that come with being a ghost.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago

of course, being a gentleman, Ghost Bernie always gets permission before possessing someone.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Surely at this point AOC is going to be in the conversation to run for president in four years. She might not be the frontrunner, but she's a notable Democrat with a great record.

The best thing to do would be to have them on-side, and working towards a common goal. By alienating her, that battle for her to get the nomination is going to just be more painful. Her platform will be more progressive, because she'll be stuck in her convictions through being isolated by her party. Her attitude to the old guard will be less about protecting them for their service, and more to do with getting dead wood out.

IMO, anyone that values a progressive platform should back AOC for president right now. Set the wheels in motion, push for stuff you'd think you'd never get, like disarming America, huge tax increases on those earning $1m+, and providing free healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 20 hours ago

IMO, anyone that values a progressive platform should back AOC for president right now.

So less than 10% of the senate.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Man, the DNC really hates young people. :( smh.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

But have the young people tried being born rich?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

The DNC hates anyone remotely left of center and absolutely LOVE anyone right of center.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

DNC just hates leftists, age doesn't really matter.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago

they can hate two things

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

I mean, it does seem like they have a particularly pointed disdain of young leftists/progresives.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

No, they have a thing about not giving power to young people. Everyone has to wait their turn which means not getting leadership positions until you're at least 70.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I didn't know Bernie was young.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago

They can hate two things.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 22 hours ago

He also runs as independent, specifically because the Democratic party pulls this shit

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