I wonder how much money they are getting paid while stuck, I'd imagine it's gotta be pretty significant.
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They will probably owe Boeing money in all honesty.
I assumed that the NASA astronaut corps have a standard salary whether the astronauts get to fly or not. Are they only paid while in space?
Getting paid full 24/7 overtime, perhaps. Not that they don't deserve it.
Ah there we go. I think there was some issue with why SpaceX couldn't sent suits up earlier too right? Because that does indeed sound like IVA suits weren't compatible
That will teach them to fly Boeing.
Modern day Gilliganβs Island reboot time.
It was a ship and not a space station but same idea. Cancelled after 2 seasons though.
Gilligan's Planet was an underrated gem.
An excellent idea, with each season finale being another failed return trip that gets delayed, and then the next season all their conditions are significantly worse until they resort to canabalism
No, we keep rebooting it every 3 seasons like Power Rangers or something.
In the end we will have 15 or so astronaut teams on different space stations.
A 3 month tour. πΆ
"For the love of god don't cut that corner or some one will die"
-Man who shot himself in the back of the head twice.
A two week expendition has turned into 10 months. -Capitalism, baby!
What does that have to do with capitalism?
I'm new to lemmy world. I'm noticing every top comment is something negative about capitalism. Either the clueless reddit communists came over or it's just Russian trolls. It could be a stubbed toe, "CAPITALISM FOR YA!!" I picked to post here because this is 8 out of 10 posts now. It's pretty much equivalent to "THANKS OBAMA!"
This is just an interesting artifact of internet communities at work. They are stuck there because Boeing's design was unsafe, Boeing has been suffering from engineering culture decline due to MBAs seeking to maximize profit. Maximizing profit is the end state of late stage capitalism. Thus this is Capitalism's fault.
People are frustrated thus they amplify these posts and ideas. You can notice the effects everywhere once you start looking. However it leads to a boring discussion. I can already see doomer questions flooding Ask Lemmy. While I may agree, it can't all be based on that.
I think capitalism is ruining earth, and is at the heart of most of the problems and challenges, AMA (jk, I don't care). It doesn't mean that I can suggest a good alternative, but observations are what they are.
Check where they're from lemmy.ml is literally just a bunch of fucking tankies and russian/ccp apologist. They're idiots who blame everything on capitalism and think communism has never been tried and that everything would be great under communism, so long as they were running the show. It's pretty much just people with no life experience shouting off these things.
Yeah, I really hope at least most of them are trolls...
What does the privatization of space flight, and it's subsequent technical failures resulting in a 2-week expedition turning into a 10-month expedition have to do with capitalism? Is that a serious question?
- So a non-capitalist space program would have no technical issues ever? Sounds about as sound as most communist propaganda logic.
- If you actually read the article, they are staying there to continue the science until replacement crew arrives. The capsule is ready and they are able to return any time. There wasn't another technical failure.
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Sounds like capitalism apologist logic to me.
" There wasnβt another technical failure."
How many commercial technical failures and logistical failures is adequate for you? They are in this position because NASA (A public space agency) determined that Starliner -(a private craft) wasn't safe to use as a return vehicle
Why hasn't NASA just sent a NASA vehicle to receive them?
I bet they would had the Obama administration not moved to privatize spaceflight -Did you miss the part I said about privatized space flight in an earlier comment?
Ah yes, the Ares I Crew Launch Vehicle. NASA's plan was to put the Orion spacecraft on top of a Space Shuttle SRB. The projected development costs were $40 billion in 2009 and it was anticipated to cost about $1 billion per flight beyond that. Despite continued development, to this day, Orion still hasn't flown a crew. An SRB was what killed the 7 crew aboard the Challenger.
This was a pretty dumb idea, driven primarily by wanting to keep funding going to the same districts as in the Shuttle era. No one misses that system.
Thinking that wasn't capitalism is ridiculous - NASA designed the system and gave aerospace contractors (read - Boeing) a blank cheque to build it. The contractors of course used that money to lobby congress to spend even more money. Did you miss that part?
How many commercial technical failures and logistical failures is adequate for you?
Maybe more than there were with publicly funded NASA? Starliner was a safe spacecraft that was recalled due to abundance of caution. Which leaders at NASA were far more comfortable doing, since it reflects badly on Boing instead of them.
On the other hand, while NASA was publicly funded, how many astronauts died in disasters?
You are seriously going to pretend one issue is somehow a failure of privatized spaceflight?
Nuance isn't allowed here on lemmy. You will hate capitalism or you will be silenced. You will hate privatization, or you will be ostracized.
I thought that was Reddits thing. Is that just an American thing in general?
It feels like we're just watching them slowly die up there. Maybe one of the billionaires is trying to discredit public space programs for good and their deaths are intended to be that final bell.
Oof. Upvoted as hell. That is EXACTLY how capitalism works. Except that said billionaire would have to be planning on profiting from their own private space program insteadβ¦
The ISS still gets regular deliveries and even some replacement astronauts from SpaceX but the Boeing and SpaceX suits aren't inter-compatible so they can't hitch a ride back afaik.
the Boeing and SpaceX suits aren't inter-compatible so they can't hitch a ride back
They are indeed hitching a ride back. The SpaceX Crew-9 Dragon launched with two empty seats for this reason. Two extra Dragon IVA suits were sent up as well.
Ah there we go. I think there was some issue with why SpaceX couldn't sent suits up earlier too right? Because that does indeed sound like IVA suits weren't compatible
They sent the flight suits up on the next scheduled flight. There was no need to rush things, because Starliner was still a viable life boat.
SpaceX can launch crazy fast if they want to, there was just no reason.
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I wonder what the defining amount of bone density loss marks the onset of osteoporosis. A cursory google search suggests that they are losing between 1-2% per month in space.
They're astronauts, they're loving this, they've said so in Interviews and it's pretty obvious they've not just been told to say that. That's not to mention that Starliner is a private spacecraft (just as much as Dragon is) and that's the only thing being discredited here.
I love a gym or a sauna but Iβm not gonna love it after 20x my normal planned time has passed and I canβt leave.
Also: weβve got NO idea what they REALLY think or feel privately, of COURSE theyβd be forced to pretend itβs what they want in a public interview (I mean, cmon.)
I can guarantee you that all the landlocked astronauts are very jealous of them right now.
What if this whole thing was a ruse and they're keeping them up there because they know they're dangerous aliens wearing human skin?
But if they realise that we know this they'll send a signal to their mother ship and kill us all.
So we're holding them up there while we come up with a plan...
Looks like you're 100% correct. They're gearing up to take those fuckers out:
Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale,
A tale of a fateful trip
That started from this tropic port
Aboard this tiny ship...
I know people have spent longer on the ISS but at some point, Iβd come back in a Home Depot bucket wearing a spacesuit with some scuba gear.
And for those who want to argue about the heat shielding on a Home Depot bucket, Iβd be responsible about it. Iβd glue all kinds of shit to it. Steal a parachute from the Roscosmos side. Iβd be fine.
βYouβd land in the Indian Ocean."
This isnβt rocket science. Itβs the opposite. Iβll land where I want. Iβd aim for your momβs house and land in her bedroom. Injuries would include a crushed pelvis and not from the fall. Thatβs just what happens when I visit your mom.
Reads like a Mark Watney diary entry
Glorious build up to a "fucked yo mama" joke. Excellent pacing!
Death by snu snu. Nice.
fwiw, they both may never go back to space again so their time in space has been extended much beyond what they thought they could do and have repeatedly said they are trying to make the most of it. The real problem is just the scheduling bumps and resource allocations.
Also health problems increase when in space longer. Specifically drastic increased risk of cancer due to lack of sufficient radiation shielding.
I don't think the radiation should be too big of a problem, they are in a very low earth orbit, well inside of the Earth's magnetosphere. Not to say there are no health risks, they lose a lot of bone and muscle mass, but radiation shouldn't be a big concern
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