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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Precisely why I think the counterculture that is "manosphere", whatever that means, is yearning to go back to the days when patriarchy was more dominant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Totally didn't expect to see a vana__nz post here, she does some sick metalcore

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So does that mean widows lost thier money?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I mean, if there was a male relative who wanted it or a jilted ex or just somebody who clocked it, yeah, that was a real possibility. Also - Conservatorship, Garden Variety Elder Abuse. You can find enough anecdotes of this happening just in the last 18 months to drive yourself insane.

Like, yeah. Yeah. Horrific absolutely terrible abuses are happening all the time and have been this entire time. That is that is the context like like have you never heard the phrase your regulations are written in blood??

I mean frankly if you’re asking me, I would say the only reason you don’t get drowned by horrific anecdotes exactly like situations like widows losing all their money 24 seven every day of the week isn’t because it’s not happening. It’s the only reason we get horrific anecdotes 24 seven in the first place at all is because if you do that for criminal shit it makes it really really comfortable and easy for society to justify continuing as is and also the racism

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's true in some states but also not relevant in many ways. It was a largely cash based society. My grandmother had a bank account prior to WW2 as a young adult in Idaho. Usually the stores kept a leger or tab and you would come pay that off in person with cash in hand at the end of the month. Your bank wasn't needed unless you were getting a loan or had such large assets it would be dangerous to travel with it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Also if memory serves right you also didnt need an account to do stuff related to chequeing so long as you werent the one giving out the cheques. For example cadhing one in, or even getting traveller cheques.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I don't think American elementary school teachers were allowed to be married until the Civil Rights Act of 1964, at least in some states.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Holy hell, TIL

Looks like it only applied to females though, because reasons.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Well you can't have those teachers leaving in the middle of the school year for something stupid like giving birth, teachers are supposed to be the paragon of innocence

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

It is. Fortunately it was around the time grandpa died so grandma was only very screwed instead of extremely screwed.

On the other side great grandpa went crazy in the 30s and great grandma couldn't open a bank account despite having a kid and her husband being in and out of the nut house. Thankfully she was tough

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

It is sadly.

They also couldn't get a credit card

They also couldn't guarantee they wouldn't be fired for being pregnant.

They also couldn't take legal action against workplace sexual harassment.

They also couldn't decide to NOT have sex if their husband wanted to.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Since you have a list going, add jury service to it. Even after women were allowed to be sunmoned, lawyers would strike everyone of them for cause,in the grounds that they were too temperamental or could not focus enough. And then after that wasn't allowed, lawyer would strike them all with peremptory challengers, until finally in like 1980 or something the Supreme Court had to step in and say "if you start striking women and it seems like you're just striking women, the judge should ask you why, and if you can't give reasons, your challenges will be denied."

A lot of people like to shit on jury service, likes it's no big deal, but I think it's one of two or three of the most patriotic and freedom loving things people can do for their country, up there with joining the service and voting. Like anyone that wants to talk to me at all using words like liberty or justice, better turn up when it's time to talk about jury service, or else they expose themselves as full of shit.

Sometimes it wasn't that grandma couldn't have a bank account and suffered financial dependence, it was that even if she needed a jury to sort through some bullshit, men could make sure it was men that judged her conduct.

A prosecutor once told me that the worst juror to have when trying to convict a rapist is a woman whose never been raped, because to convict they must first admit the fact it could happen to them; that's a hard fact to force on soneone. With that same logic, think of how men might judge a woman who leaves or defends herself from an abusive husband, or takes her kids somewhere safe, etc.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

You also couldn't get a divorce for incompatible differences, you had to prove your husband was at fault for some kind of marital crime like adultery or physical abuse. He could leave you with a single penny to your name, lock you out of your shared bank account, and go live with his mistress in another state, but if you couldn't prove he'd put his dick in her, no divorce for you. Which means you can't re-marry someone who will let you have access to a bank account, and depending on the exact year you couldn't even travel alone to chase him down.

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