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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I think Reddit ToS has something about condoning or inciting violence which is being used to broadly in my opinion.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Israeli politicians and pundits call for violence and genocide against defenseless civilians in Gaza and nobody bats an eye but one member of a tier of people that make enough money to hire their own private army gets capped, and everyone loses their mind.

If your job requires you to ruin people's lives or cause their untimely death, it is reasonable to assume that you would need private security. I hate to victim blame (not really) but it seems to me that it was UHC CEO's own fault that he got taken out by an amateur. I'd say do better next time but...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I confess I am surprised by the level of concern these fuckwits are displaying.

If nothing else comes from this, I hope a few conservatives/alt-right types have at least some of the veil lifted as they are constantly gaslit about what to think about this guy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Anything Shapiro is trash jfc

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

But Reddit also seems to be inconsistently removing the manifesto, as we were able to find a link to the manifesto in Reddit search without much work. Reddit’s new AI-powered Answers tool also showed me information about the manifesto and where I could find it.

hehe

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I guess spez is asking for the UHC treatment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Always has been

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (4 children)

A Reddit spokesperson, who asked to remain anonymous citing safety concerns, says that manifestos related to violent acts have “long violated our Content Policy” but that “discussion is allowed as long as it doesn’t violate other aspects of our violence policies (e.g., glorification, incitement).”

"You can discuss it, but we don't want you to read the thing you're discussing."

Someone should post the Declaration of Independence, see if that gets removed for being a "manifesto related to violent acts."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Will it matter if people just go watch a Netflix show where the good guys win & feel better?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (4 children)

.world did too didn’t it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As I understood it, they clarified that we're not allowed to call for violence and stuff like that. The manifesto itself is fine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (6 children)

They locked the news post entirely because some comments weren't bootlicking. My comment was removed for saying "can't imagine why that happened" which neither "calls for nor celebrates violence" as the mod stated, the latter "celebrating" being his or her invention to broaden the scope of the censoring of comments outside the stated server and community rules.

I'm current researching alternatives and have no idea where to go. I'm pretty drained after a year on Lemmy trying to make this work. I'd look at mastodon but seems like it's more Twitter than longer form discussion and boards.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Come to lemmy.zip!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Dbzer0 is where I went and after seeing all the content I wasn't seeing because world had defederated, I'm really enjoying myself.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you otherwise like lemmy I'd recommend dbzer0 or lemm.ee. Both are kinda large instances which ideally would be avoided, but both of them are also very fair with moderation and don't defederate from many places, which means you can decide whether or not to block one on your own. I also have heard decent stuff about .zip, so that might be worth checking out.

It does suck how many communities ended up centralized on .world, but a lot of the news related ones that are the most susceptible to over-moderation have fairly active alternatives on other instances.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Thanks; a few dbzero recommendations in addition to your own so maybe I'll give that a go. I was aware of the structure of Lemmy and it's options of server choice but like many, I started on .world as I assumed being the biggest fish in a small pond would at least yield the most content and users (which was the beauty of reddit) we can all agree content and participation is still a struggle even on .world so I haven't tried other instances. I'll at least try that before moving on.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Even when dealing with bullshit like this, trying to "rules lawyer" online when a moderation group has made their stance known loud and clear rarely works out well.


Also, just in the rare case you didn't know, Lemmy is more than just .world. It's not like Reddit where you're just stuck with the Reddit admins.

You could register an account on any instance you want. The overwhelming majority of them would still allow you to interact with content from .world, but the worst the .world admins could do would be to ban you from a .world version of a "subreddit".

I've been very happy with the admin of lemmy.dbzer0.com, a former mod (I think former head mod) of the piracy subreddit that resigned with the API mess. Doesn't seem to take action lightly or capriciously, content to let the community make decisions through open discussion and polls rather than just iron fist their wishes through.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I think their reasoning was that it's "unreliable source" rather than "NO MANIFESTO ALOWED!!!"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Their reasoning was spez doesn't want to give anyone ideas.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

I mean .world admins

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