I have the digital id in case i forget my physical one (despite not legaly being required to carry id) but its in an empty graphene os profile.
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Either have a cheap second hand sim less phone just for that or carry the physical Id or perhaps a copy of the physical id.
Meanwhile, there's me who just likes paper versions of this stuff because I like to be able to order a backup hard copy just in case something happens to the first one.
Edit: I'm a fucking dumbass. I was 100% aware they were talking about driver's licenses, yet I was only referring to other vital documents like one's birth certificate, and yet I didn't make the connection in my brain. Apologies. :/
Wait, what? There are countries that let you have multiple valid copies of the same ID??
Sorry, my bad. I meant more stuff like the birth certificate and other vital documents. I really should've specified.
(I swear I'm not a dumbass sometimes.)
That stuff becomes a moot point once you have a decently working bureaucratic system (if and when). If you can ask for a digital certificate online, and get it in your email three days later, you're not too worried about losing a copy.
On the other hand... I swear to you that multiple times, I have had to present "a birth certificate that was less than 6 months old".
As if the time and circumstances of my birth might have suddenly changed in the last year.
That stuff becomes a moot point once you have a decently working bureaucratic system (if and when). If you can ask for a digital certificate online, and get it in your email three days later, you’re not too worried about losing a copy.
Yeaaaaah, I see where you're coming from, but no, I'm just gonna stick with a paper copy that I know is reliable instead of a theoretical bureaucratic system that could possibly be reliable if it were to exist but in no way does exist (at least in the US).
This is the government after all. I'd like to have a paper copy in case they fuck something up during a system update and "can't find me in the system". (This is not very likely, I admit, but I wouldn't put it past them some days...)
Edit: Also, what if I don't have three days and I need said document(s) as soon as possible? That's where a hard copy comes in.
You can pin the app (android) or have it in guided access mode (ios). Although, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if there's an exploit to get out and access memory it shouldn't. Maybe if you install the govt spyware app in a different user profile (Android) then it will be restricted to that certain memory.
That's a limitation in your countries implementation then. The owner must have full control of what data to present or at least category based requests.
If you use an android phone, just create a separate account on your phone just with the apps you want the police to see. No email, photos, social media, or anything. This way you can switch to the restricted user before giving the cop your phone.
This is the biggest issue I have with them. The only way this will work in modern society where the police can't be trusted, is if the ID is accessible while the rest of the device is locked down.
And that's really only possible if Apple and Google integrate that directly into the OS.
It is.
Apple has "guided access", android has "pin app".
I only have experience with the latter, it works by opening the task management view, and selecting "pin application" on a running app.
That then locks the device to that app. To access anything else, it has to be unlocked as if the screen were locked.
App Pinning DOES NOT lockdown the device, even if you have it set to require a PIN to unpin, biometrics still work to unlock the device.
It also gives you a warning that personal data may still be accessible and the pinned app can open other apps. It specifically says "Only use app pinning with people you trust"... which is the exact opposite of the use case here. And app pinning is turned off by default, you have go go searching in the settings to enable the ability.
Was definitely on by default on my device.
Personal data is still accessible, if the app you choose to pin is something like the dialer, or your mail app, then yes, you can obviously access contacts and emails. The feature doesn't block the pinned app from accessing everything it normally accesses.
As for opening other apps, this applies to stuff like links or launchers. If the app has links somewhere, you could open your default browser app. It does not allow you to "escape" the pinned app to anywhere else in the system, unless the pinned app has a way to launch other apps the way launchers do.
The feature could certainly use improvement, but if it were only useful with people you trust, it would be pointless.
It's obviously intended for situations where you have to let someone use your phone, and don't want to give them free reign. With people you trust, you wouldn't need something like that.
It's far better than nothing, and is in fact part of android.
Don't get me wrong, it's great that you figured this out. But why did you not consider this sooner? Wouldn't it have been obvious that you would have to have the phone unlocked and that having a police person have any access to an unlocked device would be a real problem?
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I'm thinking of going stoic and dropping anything Android, but this would require setting up an emulator working good enough for WhatsApp, Google Authenticator, MS Authenticator and probably something else.