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Summary

The “Rogansphere,” a sprawling ecosystem of podcasts and online shows led by figures like Joe Rogan, has become a powerful cultural force for younger audiences, functioning as a “Fox News for the young.”

With its mix of anti-establishment rhetoric, distrust of Democrats, and casual conversations blending left-leaning and conservative ideas, it normalizes figures like Donald Trump for a disillusioned, lonely audience—particularly young men.

Democrats risk underestimating its influence, as this ecosystem fosters deep listener loyalty and has contributed to a significant shift in young male voters toward Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (7 children)

Personally, i don't like joe rogan. He does a horrible job at making sure he isn't spreading misinformation and he is indeed contributing to influencing people in a bad way

That being said, i think acually challanging and approaching these mindset is valuable to show that the left is present in politics, not just the one we agree with all the time. If we dont open up discource on platforms that the right accually watches, more left wing discource, ideas and topics gets lost in the echo chamber of "we don't want to talk to anyone on the right". We cannot think people on the right and people alienated by the democrats will suddenly start consuming leftist idea if we wont bring that to their turf. I think a lot of people supporting the right are accually in agreement with the left such as economic reform etc , just that the right have much better platforms and charismatic people that accually adress their concerns.

Im not saying we should consider rasist, misogynistic and hatefull speech to be okay at all, and we are not part of the problem if we are present on platforms trying to challenge them. But we need to show that we are here for everyone, not just ourselves. The people we disagree with don't vanish because we dont want to talk with them, because they will find other people who want to talk, and they might be encouraging their already damaging viewpoints.

I came across this video a few days ago and i was intrigued, i reccomend watching, it gave me an idea on why we are stuggeling to reach more people:

https://youtu.be/_TQLDygbI-s

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Like these young Trump voters. TikTok is where they get their news and Rogan is who they listen to: https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/18/politics/video/ufc-trump-fans-digvid

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (26 children)

I find this frustrating. Yes, many of those podcasters are conservative and have participated in spreading misinformation, but there is a huge difference between a private cable news company that is designed to manipulate the electorate, and a bunch of loosely connected yahoos on YouTube who share similar opinions.

Trump gained ground with nearly every demographic out there. They weren’t all watching Kill Tony. Working class people, comedians who rely on unrestricted speech, and a whole lot of other demographics have legitimate grievances that the Democrats have either ignored or shamed them for. They either need to lean how to address these people’s needs, or they will continue to suffer the consequences.

And when you aren’t trying to form a political opinion about it, Kill Tony is actually a pretty funny show. That is why it is the number one comedy podcast, not because of Tony’s political opinions.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

loosely connected yahoos

This particular yahoo has a $100 million deal with Spotify.

He may not have the multi-billion dollar revenue of Fox News Media. But he does only have a fraction of their staff and operating expenses. That is certainly no pittance.

The rest of the yahoos are emulating him. Together they have a huge impact.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

But they are not a coordinated cabal like Fox, which is the point I was trying to make.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with everything you said, except Kill Tony being funny. I have not heard anything from him that made me laugh.

I am genuinely still waiting.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Kill Tony is the name of a show that has featured hundreds of comedians—that is what I was endorsing as funny, and that is what most viewers come to see. Tony Hinchcliffe is a person, and he serves primarily as a judge on the show, not a featured entertainer.

This exact misunderstanding—that enjoying the product is an endorsement of the political opinions of the creator—is a good example of what I’m talking about. If Democrats want that audience to watch a Democratic comedian’s show, then all they have to do is make a better comedy podcast than he did.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago

I saw him on tour earlier this year (or maybe last year, I can't keep up with time anymore). Had never heard of him but we had free tickets. There were 3 or 4 openers, all people part of the Kill Tony family or whatever. His openers were hilarious, he was....very not funny.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

His influence is gigantic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

Not young people, a specific brand of misinformed idiot of all ages. If you can't read no good, and you don't know what "Roberts rules of order" are or you think they have something to do with the McDonald's drive thru, then Rogan and his type are your fox news - the dumbest person's dumb news-style product

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The sad thing about Rogan is that I don't think he's a bad guy at heart. He's a once pretty bright guy with an inquisitive mind that is utterly drug addled at this point.

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