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Who will lead Democrats in 2028? Meet the leaders positioning themselves to make moves. (www.politico.com)
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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Fuck Shapiro.

Fuck Newsom.

Harris better not ever show her face in a primary ever again after losing to Trump.

Buttiegieg is cool.

Fuck Beshear.

Fuck JB Pritzker.

Whitmer is cool.

Ro Khanna is alright.

Walz would probably be cool as long as he had a strong VP.

I am unfamiliar with Moore.

Fuck Fetterman.

Hey politico - why no fucking AoC? Why does this list look so full of neoliberal assholes that'll clearly lose to whoever the fuck the GOP puts up?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

AOC has just turned 35. Although she is eligible, I wouldn't be surprised if some people want to avoid voting for someone who would still be under 40.

She might have her own priorities, also, and not want to try too early, because if she gets the nomination and fails, she might not get another one. She seems smart enough to only pick fights she can win. Chuck Schumer is no spring chicken and his term ends in 2028. I could see AOC taking that seat it she wants, serving 2 terms in the Senate, and still be in her early 50's for a Presidential or VP run.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (3 children)

If Trump has taught us anything, it's that Americans have a growing appetite for "unconventional" candidates. A 40-year-old waitress from the Bronx is about as far from conventional as Trump (albeit in the opposite direction), but the more time she spends chasing Senate seats and climbing the political ladder, the more dulled that "political outsider" edge gets.

I think she should take a shot at 2028 — or at the very least, run for DNC chair next year. Someone like her directing political strategy would help younger and more progressive Democrats gain ground in local and congressional elections which could finally help shift the party back out of its corporate-sponsored neo-liberal rut and towards actual progressivism.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

but the more time she spends chasing Senate seats and climbing the political ladder, the more dulled that "political outsider" edge gets.

I think it's possible to serve in Congress and still be considered a political outsider. It's not easy, the secret seems to be a strong commitment to principles outside of the mainstream but at least a couple of people have done it.

Bernie has been in the legislative branch since 91 and was in state government for a decade before that. Being a political outsider is still part of his appeal. On the other end of the spectrum Ron Paul was first elected to the House in 76 and retired from politics in 2013 without ever having become a political insider.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You have a point, although I don't exactly think the position of DNC chair screams "I'm an outsider"....

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

You're right, it doesn't. But if we can transform the party into one that's focused on running younger and more progressive candidates, then the DNC at large will start to look less like a crusty party of "good old boys" and more like an actual grassroots movement of "outsiders". That's what I'd like to see for the future of the DNC and I think AOC would be a good face for that movement.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

Trump was a celebrity with name recognition. I think there's more to it than unconventional.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fuck Buttigieg and fuck Whitmer too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Why?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Whitmer was great during the Trump era (As a conservative, who the fuck decided to vote Trump after he literally shown us what type of president he was as 45. I’m starting to believe I’m not conservative now), as someone who looked logical and counter to Trumps stupid handling of COVID. But then Biden became president and, well, she capitulates too much to corporations. One sticking point for me is that along I94 she is planning to take away a lane for everybody (not bad in and of itself) and make it an autonomous vehicle testing lane. She takes from the people, doesn’t give the people an alternative, and gives to the corporations.

Buttigieg? He’s the ACB of politicians - he doesn’t have enough experience.

I want someone who is willing to use the system to its full extent and fix it (system including it here):

-Warren -AOC

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't trust Buttigieg's competence after how poorly he handled the port backlog as transportation secretary.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

His handling of the train derailment in Ohio was also pretty terrible, and didn't paint a very good picture of his crisis management skills.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Buttigieg/AOC 2028. Never forget that despite looking like a choir boy, Mayor Pete is a bulldog. Love watching him regularly demolish frothing Republicans. AOC is great at/for a lot of things, but at the top of the ticket, she's got too many cheap, easy character weaknesses. Too young. Her voice. Her big-time speeches, like at the DNC, show she's an unpolished orator. No executive experience.

Other than her voice (I like it, but many people find it annoying), all of those flaws would go away if she serves as VP for 4-8 years.

If Newsom is the democrat's candidate, I will vote third party. Fuck that guy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In before "But... but... Bernie..."

I love Sanders like a brother, but a) he's too old, he'll be EIGHTY-SEVEN in 2028. And b) He's just not healthy enough after having his heart stented in 2019.

Shit, I am decades younger and I couldn't keep a campaign schedule after my heart surgery either(!)

Warren? 79 in 2028.

We don't need more octogenarians in office.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

In before "But... but... Bernie..."

I really don't see anyone saying this...?

Yeah, a lot of people (myself included) feel like he was robbed of the nomination, but I haven't really seen anyone on the left advocating he run again. The great tragedy of Sanders is that we rejected him at the perfect time for his message (and at a time when the country needed him most), and now it's too late.

Of course that doesn't mean he should be ignored, it just seems like most progressives understand ee need a younger candidate with Sanders' ideals to shape the future of the party, not Sanders himself.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

I dont care who leads democrats, fight for progressive leadership https://www.gp.org/