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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

I understand the poster may be very emotional because of the election. Yet, This strikes me as incredibly reductive.

I think she lost because, she represents the continuation of the current administration. People want to break from the status quo, even if that means harming society to do it.

The dems need a left wing populist, asap.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 hours ago (17 children)

When she sat down on The View and said she wouldn't change a thing compared to Biden that was a messaging problem. People can't afford rent and grocery inflation is out of control and she thinks everything is fine and dandy? I voted for her but I'm kind of sick of being a perpetual afterthought who has been voting for the lesser of two evils for over 20 years. They dumped the working class in favor of chasing an imaginary pool of moderates and this is the result. Give us someone we can be passionate about and, even if they're lying, at least pretend to tell us what we want to hear.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

The problem with that was that she was actually answering the question, correctly and analytically. They actually made the right decisions, even if the supply chain was still a problem. Not much the president can do about that global problem.

even if they're lying

Yeah you get it. She didn't do the politician thing where you answer adjacently.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 hours ago

She didn't? I believe that's exactly what she came across as when she said she wouldn't do anything different if she were to call the shots instead of Biden and also reminded everyone she signed off on most of his decisions. Sure, she lost votes because of sexism as well, but instead of fresh air she chose to bring stale coffin smell to the fart battle and lost to the stink Trump was all too happy to discharge. And that coffin did smell of a old white dude, let me tell you.

That being said, for such a gigantic loss against someone as obnoxious as Trump, there had to be a lot of factors in play. Sexism and stagnation of the party being just a tip of the iceberg.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 hours ago (18 children)

Republicans have a vision. Democrats have a list of policy proposals. Average people can grok the vision but since they read at a 6th grade level they don't grok the policy proposals.

Democrats need to stop acting like nerds if they want more people to like them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

How the fuck do democrats win here then? After the Harris/Dump debate i feel like there was a lot of conjecture about how Harris didnt talk about policy enough. How do you get away with talking about policy but not "sounding like a nerd" to uneducated voters? See I think this is more about the average voter not being educated enough to understand the issues and the policies potential nominees have pertaining to them, or how their lives would be affected depending who/what they vote for.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 hours ago

Start offering policies that help average people. Run on medicare for all. Run on forcing pharmaceutical companies lowering drug prices. Run on building new factories to create solar panels, geothermal equipment, and wind turbines. Run on creating affordable housing and ending corporate landlords. Run on campaign finance reform with a promise of ending political ads that everyone hates.

The Democrats problem is tha they won't do any of that because their donors dont want it. But as long as the DNC values their donorsore than their voters, they will continue to lose elections.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago

The Democrats don't win here.

Just like the Tea Party transformed the GOP, we need a Guillotine Party to drag the Democratic party to the electorate.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

But I was told it was just that our policy proposals weren't left enough?

Unironically, you're right. Most voters don't vote based on any kind of coherent ideology. They vote on feels.

God help us all.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 hours ago (7 children)

If the policy proposals were far left enough they'd start to look a helluva lot more like a vision.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

I want a country where everyone pays less for healthcare. If it can be done for seniors, why not everyone else?

I want a country where everyone's private medical decisions remain between them and their doctor, without being cleared by your local, state, or federal representative or by a judge.

I want a country where everyone who works, pays taxes, and does not commit violent crime or property theft can stay and keep working without having to look over their shoulder.

I want a country where if you work full time, you can afford your rent/mortgage, put food on the table, start a family, and still be able to retire.

There's a vision. Apparently all of these things have become radically progressive leftist positions and are attacked as such by the media and conservatives alike.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

See, the problem with all of these ideas is that they’re at odds with the billionaires’ vision that you slave away in servitude to them, while their imaginary worth line goes up to infinity.

It’s really nothing more complex than that. And, as soon as the non-billionaire conservatives—your neighbors, your coworkers, the people you pass by every day—wake up and understand that they’re covered by that vision, too, the sooner things get better for all of us.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

How about do basic stuff that people understand ...

... like tax the hell out of billionaires and use the money on people in the country.

... stop financing overseas wars and use that free money on people in the country

.... then just keep repeating and blasting everyone that all the money the government is collecting from rich idiots and not spending on war is being spent on everyone ...... rinse, repeat 10,000 times.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago (8 children)

Yep. And there's precedent for this. (Even though with this Supreme Court precedent counts for jack shit...)

Every time Bernie got asked a question he'd turn it around to mentioning the top 1% and how they're fucking us over. And people liked him for it. I had MAGA hat folks tell me they liked him because of it back in 2016.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago

Republicans also like to defund public schools and or encourage people to go to religious private schools. That way they’re either too dumb to vote for policies, or too indoctrinated to vote for the candidate that isn’t promising Christian nationalism.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

The problem is the Democrats are scared to push back hard, they try to move to the right to capture moderate voters, and then lose 10x as many voters to the left who don't care enough to vote because the Democrats are trying to make concessions with absolute lunatics.

The DNC seems like it just doesn't have a spine. Doesn't matter now, it's all fucked and it's too late.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Harris is missing 10 million votes that Biden got in 2020. It looks like many of those 10 million were suburban men who didn't vote Trump, just sat on the couch. misogyny is a viable explanation for this because otherwise you'll have to explain why Biden set the left on fire, or why Biden was so inspirational to men.

She lost the scrote vote, simple as that.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 hours ago

Some of it is 100% misogyny, I think some of it is also that 4 years ago the country was literally on fire in a lot of places and Trump was obviously to blame for a lot of it, so it didn't matter so much to apathetic voters if Biden's messaging was weak. Kamala may have won then too, though misogyny would have made it closer. Now the country is much more stable but still not great, but Democrats are in charge and therefore obviously to blame, so people who largely haven't been affected negatively by the Republicans (e.g. men, especially non-desperately-poor white men), are apathetic again

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

The fundamental issue is that people don’t think the system works.

The Democrats have been padding themselves on the back all this time that they follow the rules. So, their message is more like the system does work and is in fact fair if you just follow the rules.

People are tired of that.

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