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With just five days to go until Election Day, Democrats appear to have a significant advantage over Republicans when it comes to voter enthusiasm.

According to new polling from Gallup, 77% of Democrats and Democratic-leaning voters say they're more enthusiastic about voting than usual, versus 67% of Republicans and GOP-leaning voters who say the same.

That's a slightly higher level of enthusiasmfor Democrats than they had just before the 2008 election, when that same poll found that 76% of Democrats and Democratic-leaning voters were more enthusiastic than usual about voting. Barack Obama would go on to win that year in an Electoral College landslide.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

if harris wins this, i want to see her put her fucking heel on the throats of all the fascist traitor swine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

I'm fine with a stern look, a firm handshake, and a full body kick off a 10th story balcony.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I just looked at the current polls and it is close. Like, I cannot believe that this many people have watched all of this shit and are still voting for him.

Please go out and vote.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

This was the line for early voting in a conversation county. Fuck polls they only call landlines and only fucking boomers have those.

Bet the polls would not be close if they spoke to younger people. No matter vote like it could potentially be your last. Because if Trump wins or cheats and steals this election it will be.

Please believe them when he says he will be a fucking dictator.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

Even if they called younger people doubt itd do too much. My friends and myself dont answer unknown numbers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

The 18-29 crowd makes up less than 10% of current early/voting figures. Doesn't matter too much how Trump or Kamala is polling with the younger generation, because just like every election in the past, the younger generation doesn't show up to vote.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter. Don't let them make you complacent. Go vote!

[–] [email protected] 40 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Even if you think he'll lose, the House (unless the Dems take it) will very likely try to block certification, force a per-state count instead of a per-delegate count, and punt it it to Supreme Court.

So give as little leeway as possible. The more he loses by the harder his next little coup attempt will be

[–] [email protected] 16 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

When the votes are counted, the presiding officer will be VP Kamala Harris, not the House Speaker.

And the only way to block a state's certification is if both the House and Senate agree. Otherwise they have to accept the results certified by the governor.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

One body can reject forever, nothing forces them to accept.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

That's not how it works.

When the EV's for a state are counted, the House and Senate have one opportunity to object.

If there is an objection, a vote is called. A majority in both houses is necessary to reject those EVs.

If there is not a majority in both houses then the motion fails, the EV's are accepted, and the VP moves on to the next state.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The house and the president will almost certainly swing the same way. This is nothing to worry about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

Midterms tend to favor the opposing party

[–] [email protected] 46 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The Democrats have to win by enough of a margin that it can’t be taken away from them by a rush of spurious lawsuits aided by partisan judges. If they’ve won a state but invalidating a few batches of votes would undo that, they haven’t actually won it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Republicans dont even need to win states they lost just to have their results rejected by Congress and the election having no one get to 270. In that case the house votes by state which Republicans win easily.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago

The new Congress votes tho...we don't know the makeup of it yet.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If only enthusiasm countered the unjustness of voter suppression and the electoral college.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. I have no doubt Harris will win the popular vote. Unfortunately that's not necessarily good enough to win. And even if she wins, Trump supporters are absolutely not interested in a civilized society.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's becoming more of a worry in my mind that within my remaining lifetime I will see an uncivilized society in America. So far the majority of people seem to at least scoff at the Jan. 6 actions, and no true movement of insurrection (meaning they are willing to wage war and not back down when confronted with armed resistance, not that Jan. 6 wasn't treason) has seized the country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It’s becoming more of a worry in my mind that within my remaining lifetime I will see an uncivilized society in America.

bro. they mowed down a bunch of 7-year olds at school back in 2012 or whenever the fuck it was (forgive me, these shootings are so common it's hard to remember when sandy hook happened).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

I remember Sandy Hook. I was working in a primary school at the time and helped harden in the pointless ways we actually could. And, like, I get that, but it isn't the whole society. We haven't gotten to the point where rule of law actually disintegrates. As bad as that is, I fear for true war from one side against the other(s), where we will see everyone pull out weapons and hold them to the heads of the other side in order to get their way, blast away at those they see as other... not just use laws to slowly strangle the ideas of self-autonomy and democracy.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 23 hours ago

Vote, bitches 🤘

[–] [email protected] 18 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The most enthusiastic voter still only gets one vote.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 23 hours ago

Less enthusiastic voters don't cast votes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

In my household we have already cast 3 votes for sanity. We can only hope that others are quietly doing the same.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

I literally just ignored a poll called (phone even IDd them as Survey) so ... Let's try not to read too much into polls. Instead, vote.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO!!! Shit yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The polling/ exit results is so confused in this past week.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

None of the polls are based on reality anymore. They are all being gamed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

No I don't believe that. Its counter-productive to engage in conspiratorial thinking.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Polls haven't been accurate in a long time now. Election betting sites have said they are being manipulated. DJT stock price is being used as a way of showing "market acceptance of trump". It's all being gamed. It's not conspiratorial at all.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/you-are-lying-nate-silver-accuses-pollsters-of-putting-their-fcking-finger-on-the-scale/
https://fortune.com/crypto/2024/10/30/polymarket-trump-election-crypto-wash-trading-researchers/

[–] [email protected] -1 points 19 hours ago

It’s not conspiratorial at all.

No, what you are engaging in is anti-scientific, conspiratorial thinking. Gallup isn't being gamed. Emerson isn't being gamed. Times-Sienna isn't being gamed.

And there is some funny business out there, but polling is still polling. There are real criticisms you can make here around methodology, or how when a metric becomes a target it ceases to be a metric, and maybe you could dig into issues like that. But to just be dismissive like this is, well, its anti-intellectual and anti-factual.