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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Anybody voting against Harris over Gaza is a moron. Trump may be even more pro Israel...

[–] [email protected] -2 points 16 hours ago

Ah yes he will give them unlimited weapons and money to bomb children. Oh wait

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (5 children)

America voting for the lesser evil since 1792.

It's not the time to stop now. But I better see all of you on the streets with signs on November 6th.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For real.

Today, massive supporter for Harris.

Post-election, I shall go back to being a massive critic.

Shitty situation all around. Once heard politics are like public transportation. Won't give me a door-to-door ride to the destination I'm aiming for, so I'll take it to get as close as possible.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Bernie is such a good guy. The Dems have done him dirty so many times, they are currently continuing to support many harmful policies but he understands what's at stake and he puts all of that aside to do the best he can.

He doesn't have to do this. He's 83 years old and while his cognitive health is outstanding for his age, someone his age doesn't need to be on this grind for us. He probably won't stop until he's forced to due to his health. I love the guy and it's a shame we weren't given the chance to see him take the presidency.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

He is a leader.

I remember that old footage of him in Burlington in the 70's, talking to random kids in the mall, asking them what was important to them--drug policy, free speech, good schools--and just talking to them about how they could make a difference. From the bully pulpit, he would have been transformative.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago
[–] [email protected] -5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Sometimes there are "issues" that we must absolutely not compromise on. "Why gain the world to lose your soul?"

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Gaza is hardly even an issue on the ballot, you're picking between slow genocide and fast genocide.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Slow genocide is better though. We all get that right?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 12 hours ago

Frankly no. Oppression like this is worse than slaughter. There’s a reason Gazans are telling reporters and social media they are relieved when their loved ones die, because they’re literally starving and in pain and squalor.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Certainly gives us more time to try to do something about it, yeah.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Slow genocide is better

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

No, no, no, you see, you should see Gaza as the only issue and ignore all the other issues because . ^Awaiting^ ^check,^ ^komrade.^

The tactic is just about the same as the MAGA side, try to get people emotionally involved without thinking and lock them into a state so emotionally charged they are unwilling to back down.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago

That's a bad headline. Watch his video, he makes a much more nuanced argument.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The fantasy world the zero-tolerance high-ground morality angels live in is as dangerous as the one MAGA lives in, and ironically has the same victims. They proudly polish their halos nice and shiny while they let the world burn.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Don't support genocide, it's as simple as that!

By the way: Voting isn't actually support. The American system is not set up in a way where votes actually add to the power of the Presidential office. On the other hand, making a deliberate choice not to act does mean supporting whatever happens without your action, which could be genocide. This means YOU HAVE TO VOTE HARRIS IN ORDER TO NOT SUPPORT GENOCIDE. The socialism angels are hypocrites.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (35 children)

there are two facts about this election

  1. there are only two outcomes—0.0% chance for a third party win
  2. both candidates have a bad stance on the genocide

so neither outcome will help with the genocide. acting like voting third party helps in any way shape or form is disingenuous at best. so what should you do?

my argument is that you should vote for the person you can hope to convince on this issue. phone calls, protests, social media, whatever means you have... which of these candidates is more likely to respond to any kind of public pressure about this?

Harris might be responsive, and let's be honest, she might not be. but you know for a fact that it's definitely not the fucking orange turd. Natenyahu wants him to win. how can you ignore that?

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I was a Bernie-or-Bust-er in 2016 because I was confident Hilary was going to win with or without my vote. I deeply regret taking that stance and feel like I let down every woman who's lost rights to their bodily autonomy, every family who was separated at the border, everybody whose life was lost or ruined due to the Trump administration's incompetent response to the COVID-19 outbreak, and everybody else who has been harmed by the Trump administration.

Don't be like me. It sucks having to vote for the lesser of two evils but that's how our system works and not voting or voting third-party isn't going to change that but it does run the risk of things getting a lot worse.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 2 days ago (17 children)

Protest voting doesn't work when the candidate you are protesting is the least worst option. Democrats that will not vote out of principle have been conned as badly as MAGA republicans. End of story.

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[–] [email protected] 199 points 2 days ago (77 children)

Once you are under dictatorship, you can't vote to hold anyone accountable. Vote for Trump and you won't have a say in what happens to Gaza. Or anything else.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago

If Harris wants my vote she should at least try the bare minimum to get it. Her campaign wouldn’t let Palestinians endorse her at the DNC. Her entire message to our community is; we make no promises at all but Trump is worse. That’s no comfort to those in my community who had relatives die in bombings by US-supplied weapons. “Trump didn’t kill my relatives. Biden did.”

Why is Harris so bad at this outreach? All she has to do is make some bland comments and it would win more people over, and she can’t even do that because she thinks being a hardliner against our community will win over a few Republican votes. Clinton tried that in 2016 and it failed.

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