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[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 minutes ago

I believe all promises that are made within the last 30 days of an election!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago

That's great!

Certain burger-flipping former presidents have legal fees to pay and this goes a LONG way to making due.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

You're about 5 - 10 years behind, maybe longer, Harris.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago

Is this an argument as to why we shouldn't raise the minimum wage?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago

And they'll STILL walk it back the moment some unelected clerk with only ceremonial authority objects. If not before THAT even happens.

They always start negotiations at "nowhere near good enough" and make tons of concessions to Republicans from there.

Even the GOP becoming a literal fascist party that never negotiates in good faith hasn't changed their toxic inadequacy and insistence on bipartisanship being the highest political virtue possible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Wait, doubling it -to- 15 dollars an hour? Holy shit, I knew it was bad, but that is insane. Ours is already starting to feel too low at 17.40 here in Canada, granted that is about the equivalent of around $12.50 USD. So it's lower than what she is proposing, maybe if she manages it, we'll be able to get ours up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, the states have been moving towards 15, but the national minimum wage has been stuck for a few decades. And also yes, 15 is already way too low.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago

Most states have their own minimum wage laws at this point. Not all of them. So this will help a handful of mostly-red states.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago

It varies by province and at the federal level in Canada, 17.40 is for BC specifically, Alberta and Saskatchewan are the lowest at 15, Nunavut is the highest at 19 and it's 17.30 for jobs under federal jurisdiction.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago

Heard this before. Democrats will encounter one tiny setback and give up until the next election cycle.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

How out of touch do you need to be to offer something lower than Walmart's starting wage? And how many times have we heard this lie?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago

The headline is a little misleading, she said "at least $15" not that she wants it necessarily at exactly $15/hr and no morr

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Oh.

My minded automatically corrected that as "doubling from 15 to 30". Because that's what it needs to be, at least.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

What's the basis for $30/hr? First time seeing that number in the wild.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

I'm seeing 21.50 from articles in 2020 tying min wage to productivity. Maybe that's the number basis? Or living wage? A living wage per state adjustment for one adult with one child seems to put lw around 30 in a lot of states, with the single adult needing 13-20.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Because we've been arguing it should be at least 15 for 10 years, and inflation is a bitch and if federal minimum wage had tracked with inflation since the last time it was bumped, it would be closer to 30 bucks an hour than to 15.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I understand your sentiment, but if that's your policy basis, you'd be asking for $10 /he instead of $15.

Not necessarily a bad idea, I just wanted to know how that number was generated, because without that data, it's not necessarily a good idea either.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Just read the comments, the data is there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago

If you read the comments, it's actually not. Inflation alone doesn't account for pinning wages near $30, so that's not really a good explanation given that it's nonfactual. Even if he's considering the living wage instead of historical minimums, $30 is still about 30% higher than what an average living wage would be. Is there some other consideration he has that I'm missing? I wouldn't know without asking due to an unfortunate lack of psychic powers.

Anyways, sorry I asked for the policy reasoning behind a policy position. It clearly offended many, I realize my mistake, and won't bring that kind of nonsense around here again.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago

And it should be all at once. The instant it's passed, $30/hr. None of us got eased into it when gas prices and grocery prices and rent and health insurance went up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I'll believe it when I see it. Seems every candidate has promised this for as long as I've been following American politics and no one actually manages it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

She's yet to pull out "I will lower taxes!" card that's been over-promised. "I will lower inflation rates!" card that's been over-promised.

So many empty promises from any politician that has ever said those.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

And if you read the document associated, its because they are pushing to raise on the $400+k/yr taxes.

Its a bit of an overview of course, but there is meat of course.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago

Dang that is a lot of trackers

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They'll blame someone other than their ineptitude in governing

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Two words: Arms embargo.

Other than that, ask the Cheney's for some more advise on how to campaign.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Did you post this in the wrong thread, or did lemmy do the thing where you post in one thread and it winds up in another?

And yes, there needs to be an arms embargo. Unless the intended thread was about Ukraine. Ukraine needs the support we're wasting on Netanyahu.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago

The Russian trolls seem to be doing overtime now that the election is getting close.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

And note that her wording was "at least $15", so she's signaling openness to doing more than that

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago

Good, because "fight for $15" has been going on so long that the real number to regain parity with what minimum wage used to be is a lot higher than that by now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Hmmm....sounds a lot like vote buying.

I would love to see the Trump campaign vow to quadruple the minimum wage just to watch people on this site do their mental gymnastics to convince themselves that Trump doesn't have the power to do so, but Harris does.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

There it is, ladies and gentlemen, the dumbest take off the day.

Even before Trump became the blubbering mess he is today, we've had 4 years of seeing him welch on every promise he's ever made. Why should anyone believe his campaign promises now?

Why, just a few days he vowed to use the United States military against citizens he doesn't like, such as Nancy Pelosi, which is patently illegal and gross. Imagine if Obama, Biden or Harris had said that at any point, you'd be up in arms!

You've let his propaganda convince you that he's on your team, so now you have to win no matter what, even if his policies are directly against your interests and freedoms as a human.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago

What's that woosh for? The person who commented or your grasp on reality?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Look through the original commenter's post history. They aren't joking. They keep posting pro-trump stuff

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

Well, that was a bad idea.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I would also love to see that!

Please Donald Trump, vow to quadruple the minimum wage! I promise it will cause doublethink among the libs and help your campaign!!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

You seem to be under the impression that people hate Trump for being trump and not because he has dogshit policies and ideas.

If he did good things, like raising the minimum wage, liberals wouldn't hate him. But he also wouldn't have the rabid base of morons that he currently has.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

After all he's done so far, I would vehemently disagree. He's a known liar, convicted fraudster, and a racist, misogynistic narcissist. Nothing he could do would make liberals hate him less before the day he dies because he doesn't have enough years left in his lifespan to atone for what's already been done.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

TIL vote buying is when you propose policies that people want and, not say, running a 1 million dollar lottery to sign a pro-trump petition

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago

I guess we're about to find out if Elon has better lawyers than Mr Beast

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago

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