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Phoronix: Several Linux Kernel Driver Maintainers Removed Due To Their Association To Russia (www.phoronix.com)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

it's a pity that politics is penetrating more and more into open source and FOSS.

recently support for Russian cloud providers was cut out of opentofu. https://github.com/opentofu/registry/pull/824

now this. this is, of course, natural the core and many components of modern distributions have not been free in terms of decision-making for a long time and are under the influence of large companies, which in turn are under the influence of the USA.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (9 children)

Dude, WHAT. This is totally against what Linux and Open source in general stand for.

I don't support the thing that I'm sure was their reason for this but I definitely don't support banning someone from contributing to an open system solely off nationality.

So what eventually only the "good guys" can contribute to and use open source software? Who exactly decides who the "good guys" are in this scenario? USA? China?

The implications of what this can cause in the future for potentially all of the open source community is absolutely sad. We should welcome all our fellow human beings to contributing to open source.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 57 minutes ago

Yeah, being from Russia is a lot different from being associated with the Russian government. If the maintainers are in the latter, then yeah fuck em, but if they live in Russia with no realistic way of getting out and they’re just trying to live a normal life removed from the bullshit and write code as an intellectual escape? And you take that away from them? Precisely how you radicalize people

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago

As far as I can read from that, they're still maintainers, just have had their credit removed from the contributors page, no?

Still a strange thing to do and I look forwards to an explanation.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Reminds me of a comment the other day on a post about Ventoy. Whatever the situation there is, which definitely needs clarification still, the person was saying that you shouldn't trust it at all because the maintainer is Chinese, even though he has emigrated away. Because the CCP will be able to leverage his family still there to force him to create a backdoor.

That's just thinly veiled racism in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

That's plain racism honestly.

I knew a (asian) guy who was working for a government contractor serving the US military. The racism is very serious to say the least. He got framed when something went down and was almost tried with treason. (that carries the death penalty) The authorities hit him with questions about his loyalty to the US for 5 hours even though he grew up in the US and so did his parents.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

@BobGnarley @kixik Yep this is definitely not a step forward.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

My first thought is that this was to make Linux palatable to western regulations, like how companies can't use Kaspersky anymore. Stupid if I'm right because it's not like the fsb is going to sneak spyware into Linux.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 hours ago

They very well could. However, it also could come from some US intelligence agency as well.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 hours ago

I'm definitely all for Ukraine winning, but this is bullshit, basically the red scare all over again (but for tech).

[–] [email protected] 87 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Couldn't think of a more lemmy thread topic than one involving both Russian geopolitics and linux.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 hours ago

Gotta have them "various compliance requirements", man, gotta have'em. Don't ask me what they are, but damnit, gotta have'em.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 9 hours ago (10 children)

Hello Internet commenters. Please remember that there's no rule that says you need to tell us all your gut reaction to this if you know absolutely nothing about the situation.

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