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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (10 children)

They have a point, though. Compare life expectancy in China --even during the Great Leap Forward and the Four Pests Campaign to life in (for example) colonized India. Communism wasn't great, but compare it to the alternative. I'm not a fan of China, i'm an anarchist, but some of the criticism is just red scare bullshit and not backed by facts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (3 children)

It's important to note that India was also reeling from a very rocky partition with no Western support or severance. I personally think a more apt comparison is North and South Korea, I don't even need to show you their comparison

Still, when compared to its Western rivals, China doesn't look nearly as impressive, especially not in current times where China remains near the bottom (though still above India, that's not much of a brag.)


Regardless, please take note of their denial and praise of genocide--That's the centre topic to focus on here

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (6 children)

"Communism has poven track record of working"

More like a proven record of not working. How many communist countries are still around today? How many of those are places you would want to live? If they are communist they are also heavily authoritarian. At the end of the day communism "works" if you only believe what the state propaganda tells you. The reality is that forcing people into jobs and trying to eliminate competition ends up hurting diversity of thought. It is no surprise every communist revolution is a violent one. Add that to the fact that the farms completely fell apart and were not producing much output and you have a disaster that has to be covered up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

but have you considered that the West makes countries not communist by uhhhhh, making them poor? PLEASE DO NOT LOOK AT CUBA. DO NOT LOOK AT VIETNAM. DO NOT LOOK AT LAOS. DON'T LOOK AT THEM, STOP IT.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Cuba: Heavy US Sanctions.

Vietnam: Heavy US Bombing campaign.

Laos: Heavy US bombing campaign.

Basically any socialist experiment you can point toward, almost certainly you will also find either a US war, coup, or sanctions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, you can use Cuba. The embargoes are stupid.

But Vietnam and Laos have recovered from the wars. Vietnam has one of the world's fastest-growing economies. Laos is more difficult due to its size, but it has free markets with Thailand and China, and the Laos government is even beginning to open up more expressive freedoms for people due to the presence of Thai trade.

also you'll find communist nations also putting sanctions on the US. It's not much of an argument though, since their sanctions are obviously weaker.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The point is that it's the US intervention is causing them to "not work", not on their merits themselves. If I firebombed every red house in the neighborhood and they got rebuilt at being blue, we wouldn't say red houses are naturally prone to combust and fail, right?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

But they are working. They're poor, standards are low, as are rights and freedoms, but they do work. You can become a citizen and experience communism exactly as it was described.

What is the intervention of Laos and Vietnam at the moment? I couldn't find anything. The closest I could find is a defence deal, and that's about it.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (4 children)

For a second I thought you were a tankie

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Correlation ≠ Causation

Perhaps it just so happened that Mao took control around the same time medical sciences obtained a break through in some field.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Ironic for a group that currently obsesses over anti-genocide to be pro-genocide;

"Even if every absurd fabrication that the anti-communist propagandists like to parrot about the millions supposedly killed by Stalin, Mao, etc. was true, those numbers would pale in comparison to the number of lives they saved, "

also

Creating gender equality

Until Stalin reversed it all lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15590383/

Yep, no domestic violence or sexist culture here, none whatsoever, China is a glorious wonderland of sexual and gender equality /s.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (5 children)

What we really need is a female let totalitarian dictatorship.

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Source: The Onion

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

im not even going to touch their disdain towards imperialism while also praising modern-day china. i'd drown in the irony. Quick, someone, throw me a buoy!

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