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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Because the Democrats abandoned working class voters in the 80s and 90s to court the professional-managerial class in a pivot towards the center, and the Republicans were able to win over these disaffected blue-collar voters with resentment politics.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Because democrats value egalitarianism and education. Good education is expensive. The businesspersons that have expended the most effort to offshore our jobs to the serious detriment of working-class America have had some of the most expensive and exclusive educations of all, and they are some of the wealthiest people on the planet… (conservatives fullstop here and ignore the rest: …who are also likely voting conservative). Couple that with the fact that expert (educated) advice and direction is often in direct conflict with the myopic goals and views of the uneducated. Don’t dump shit everywhere (but it’s cheap, easy, and fun to roll coal and pour used motor oil on the ground!), don’t cut down all the trees (but mah lumber is more expensive!), and maybe wear a mask (grandma was gonna die eventually anyways, at least I can bring her Covid from the Applebees take out!)

So it’s really easy for the conservatives to paint education = evil, and then of course they couple that with feel-good bullshit like “common sense” and small-town American wisdom that is completely meaningless but makes the uneducated feel smart or like they have control of their situation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Accuse your enemies of that which you are guilty.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Because Republican voters never, ever seek evidence or utilize basic critical thinking when their hatred steeped biases are confirmed.

A sufficiently hatemongering, and therefore trusted conservative talking head could say "Kamala Harris is a secret Aids Virus in a skin suit made of harvested fetuses made human size by George Soros' double secret reverse shrink ray!"

And you'd cue thunderous Republican voter applause with shrieks of "I FUCKING KNEW IT!"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Because it was always about projection.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

because US politics is center right vs far right

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Corporate politicians are the same regardless of whether there is a D or an R in front of their name. They will vote in the interests of their donors every time, without question.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

But there is such a thing as a non-corporate Democrat. Unfortunately, they are few and far between. There are also some wealthy Democratic donors that are less than 100% shitbags, resulting in some legitimate progressive policy.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Perhaps because they are the current ruling party of a government doing business with elites such as the world's richest man who funds trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Starshield

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's true that the owners of large space technology companies are often rich, therefore all governments who contract to them are supporting elites.

Very insightful observation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You don't go to school study and become the owner of a large space technology company, you need government backing for it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Yes, therefore all governments that use private space companies are supporting elites. It's a brilliant point, no need to keep convincing me.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

As I said, Harris is waging a good campaign. But she and many of her fellow Democrats could be more vocal about how ultra-wealthy individuals and giant corporations are undermining and corrupting America.

No, she is leading a good campaign by comparison. Overall, her entire message is back to neoliberalism and not facism, which is definitely the better choice. But objectively she is in the pockets of corps and thereby is not doing a good campaign the way FDR’s was good.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

because the average american is dumber than the average human?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Because the media continually accepts and perpetuates the right wing framing of everything.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Because the media is owned and operated by rich men who benefit from putting the blame on others and calling it "news."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

All threads starting with "Why" and ending in a question mark, can be answered: "Money corrupts people"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Because 2 things can be true at the same time?
Why is this a question?

Its just each side has their own excuse of why their shit doesnt stink and what their idea of how this fake meritocracy will justify their elites.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Because they are? Let's not pretend several billionaires don't have Democrats on their payroll too. Are we just ignoring the existence of pelosi and her corporate democrat ilk to make this point? Dems and Republicans are in the pockets of corporate america and billionaires. It's not a secret that this country is a thinly veiled oligarchy

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

I think oligarchy is putting it extremely kindly. Can we please just acknowledge we are a naked kleptocracy now?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Nuh uh! Not my team!

..........and even if it was true, my team is better than yours, so they deserve to rule.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (4 children)

This is one of the greatest scams that conservatives get away with IMO, not just in the US but it happens in the UK and other places too. Conservatives get in, go hog wild cutting taxes, selling off public assets and throwing huge contracts to their friends, and then as soon as the other side gets back in they find that they have to now balance the books, the conservatives start complaining and saying they're the fiscally responsible ones.

It's literally happening right now in the UK - we just got rid of the Tories finally after about 15 years, and the new Labour government immediately found a £20 billion hole in the economy which they now have to make harsh cuts to sort out, and they're the ones getting criticized for it by the media.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

not just in the US but it happens in the UK and other places too

Damn. Can't believe New Labour is getting tarred with accepting soccer tickets, fancy clothes, and vacation packages from British Peer Lord Alli. Seems so unfair. Wish people would stop accusing the Labour government of being corrupt, when they are very obviously following the rules of accepting gifts and definitely not operating on any quid pro quo.

the new Labour government immediately found a £20 billion hole in the economy

New Labour has a set of accounting rules that count investment in capital as an expense and insists on running daily budget surpluses for their operating expenses.

Popping open your household account, making cartoonish bug-eyes, and announcing "We owe $200k on our 30 year mortgage but we only make $80k/year! We're bankrupt for the next three years until we pay this house off!" This is New Labour accounting. It's laughable and only ever used as an excuse not to spend any money.

On the flip side, this is the same party that insists on privatizing everything. From Thames Water to British Gas to UK Rail, every once-public service has to be turned over and rented back from the private sector. The Brits pass out these privatization contracts as sinecures, guaranteeing their financial friends huge piles of free no-risk revenues at the expense of the British taxpayer. And then they complain that the country has no money.

That New Labour slid directly into the driver's seat the Tories left and gunned it isn't something you can ignore, simply because the party leadership has changed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

We need a government report card.

At the end of every administration, we need to compare the national debt and all important factors.

It’s one thing people missed in coming up with democratic systems. If different people take turns to steer the ship then you need to define what their goal is so you can evaluate each.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'd half agree; they could raise taxes instead of making cuts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Don't say this around any conservative. They only believe in cutting taxes.

They always have these "household budget" analogies when it comes to the government, but even in a "household budget" situation one solution to overcoming debt is to find a way to raise your income so you can pay down the debt faster....Facepalm

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That generally also does not go over well in the media.

Conservatives make a mess to their advantage and win/win every time

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Sure, because the media is generally profit oriented and therefore aligned with capitalist interests. We need more mutually supported and supportive media and journalism.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Because rich Republicans also own the media.

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