pre-ordering is bad mmmkay
this post was submitted on 12 Jun 2023
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Stuff like this is the reason game companies continue to release unfinished games, they're breaking even before they even release. Stop pre-ordering games people!
I've been buying Bethesda RPGs without waiting for reviews since 2007. They've all had their rough spots but not a single one has disappointed me. Despite their issues I put hundreds of hours into each one and enjoyed them all. I see no reason to think this won't be the same, and have no problem betting $70 on it. I pre-ordered last night on Xbox.
Preordering has literally zero advantages.
Sometimes artificial ones like preload but thats negligible in our modern tech era.
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$70, I guess this is the world we live in now. Can't wait for the next price hike!
I guess I'll become a PatientGamer™
Back when I was young, most games cost around $50. But back then they were 1/100th the size and complexity they are now, had absolutely no post-launch support whatsoever, and and even “AAA” titles used pixel art. They didn’t even have voice acting.
If I adjust for inflation alone, no other factors, a $50 game from back then would be $91 today.
I’m not happy about the price increase, but I certainly understand it and can’t really blame anyone for it. Frankly, I’m surprised this didn’t happen many years ago.
Personally, I’ve been a patient gamer for a while - welcome! It’s great here.
I've thought about this before, and you're definitely right that games are technically cheaper when you factor in inflation. However, they sell to a much larger audience now, so it's not like the major studios are starving. Even so, I would probably be fine with it, if it weren't for the tendency to:
- include microtransactions, rather than achievements
- sell dlc that should have just been part of the game
- Release the same uninspired crap every year (call of duty, sports ball 2023, etc.)
- sell broken games
I'm guessing this one will be #4. Hoping to be wrong.
I definitely agree with you on 1, 3 and 4. Personally I haven’t even looked at Starfield because of the patient gamer thing, I’ll try it out in a few years or whenever it’s on sale / has enough buzz.
I do kind of defend a lot of dlc though. Some of it is predatory as fuck, but some of it just massively expands a game’s lifespan and you end up with massively more support/content in a post-dlc world than we ever got without it.
It just depends on if they’re selling Horse Armor, or if it’s a game that keeps getting major content patches for 10 years because it’s being supported by dlc. Both happen. Of course, given that “horse armor” is literally something Bethesda did…well…
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The game looks promising, from what i have seen.
Few questions remain: Will it dethrone Jedi Survivor as worst performing game? Will it surpass Redfall in it's emptyness? Does it have a chance fighting LOTR Gollum in "Most 2023ish game of the year"? Or will it truly be a Masterpiece? (Hint: Masterpieces don't get released in 2023).
We will find out at release. Together with those that preorderd.
… Tears of the Kingdom released this year. That game is 100% a masterpiece.
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Oh come on people, can't even wait to the release date?
I officially hate everyone who preorders digital games. There is absolutely no justification for it. If you preorder, youre the reason modern gaming sucks.
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Fellas! Why are games today so buggy! Why are they incomplete? I just don’t understand!!!!‽‽???
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TFW you're broke and $70 is the norm for AAA games now. As much as I want to get this on Steam so I can have all the games in one account, it's looking like I have no choice but just play it on the XBOX game pass when it comes out. Living the PH, it's 3 USD a month here.
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This have looks fabulous to me, but there's no way I'm preordering. I don't have a lot of experience with Bethesda, but I thought the overall picture painted was a pretty gorgeous one. Hopefully they can deliver. That being said, I just started playing Fallout76 about two weeks ago, so I don't mind waiting until they work sone things out. Overall though, what they are promising looks incredible. Probably too good to be true :)
SkillUp said it quite nicely; Never preorder, never ever preorder. And finally, never preorder.
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This game looked like trash from the announcement trailer, anyone lining up to pre-order a Bethesda game though, what can you do? Some people want to get their pockets picked.
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I don't know if they can reasonably judge the game within the 2 hours frame for refund. (Some game now do a very long shader compilation that can eat 30 minutes of your time.) The tutorial/beginning stage of the game are usually the most polished, but the latter part of the game could become very hollow.
They are going to get themselves cyberpunk'd.
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Freelancer is one of my all time favorites along with Privateer…
If only the guy who made both was doing something worthwhile.
When will you learn!? That your actions have consequences!
Well that's disappointing. As excited as I am, I actually recall the distant events of this year....no preordering.
As hyped as I am - never preorder!
We're building a Starfield community over at [email protected] if anyone wants to join.
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I wish you all luck on your pre order
This time it will have 64 times the details!