Downvote spam report: 1/4th of the downvotes on this one (so far) are from zero-content accounts.
this post was submitted on 14 Sep 2024
123 points (66.2% liked)
Memes
45662 readers
969 users here now
Rules:
- Be civil and nice.
- Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
Who could have done this
zero-content accounts
🙄
Again with this. Just for context, how many of the upvotes are zero-content accounts?
Interesting. How do you find that out?
Admins can see voting patterns.
Admins can see who upvotes and downvotes, I'm pretty sure.
I'd even replace communism with socialism. Since it's also vilified in the US, but it's a broader term which is, to me, more relevant nowadays.
What do you mean? Socialism is generally just the process of building Communism.
There exists socialist theory outside of marxism-leninism
Yes, there does, but the idea of a Socialism that would not eventually work itself towards Communism is silly, that assumes a stagnant system that cannot advance.
Well I'd say communism is a type of socialism, where the latter is the ideal to strive for a better society for everyone, to intervene to help those who cannot help themselves. Communism tries to achieve this goal by making the means of production into communal ownership. With the State enforcing strict wealth equality. But it's still socialism with economic inequality at the beginning but fair and strong wealth redistribution in the end: equity.
This isn't really accurate. Socialism is the domination of the proletariat over the bourgeoisie, ie worker ownership of the Means of Production, and the path towards Communism, an eventual stateless, classless, moneyless society.
Are you familiar with Communist theory? Equity isn't the goal, fulfilling everyone's needs is.
I consider myself a socialist/leftist and my primary concern right now is not to dominate the bourgeoisie. It's mainly to get them to stop tax evasion so we can fund our public schools and hospitals. And if they could stop voting for candidates who are in coalition with the far right that'd be nice too!
That's Social Democracy, ie what the Nordic Countries are, not Socialism and not Leftism.
Oh boy I'm no social democrat. A radical socialist if you prefer. You can have radical ideas like ending capitalism or taxing inheritance to 100% while still being for democracy and not being a revolutionary.
All of the policies you described were those of Social Democrats, though. Additionally, Revolutionary Socialists are still for Democracy, just not bourgeois democracy, which makes Socialism impossible.
Communism works and has worked for thousands of years. People thrive when their needs are met. It's authoritarianism that doesn't work
When do you call a system "Communist" and when do you call it "Authoritarian?" Early-human "communism" isn't what Communists advocate for, instead Communists advocate for moving beyond Capitalism.
authoritarianism has worked for thousands of years.
just because the system isn't working for you doesn't mean it's not working
Depends on the goal doesn’t it?
Authoritarianism archives incredible luxury and comfort for a very small portion of people.
Communism archives collective well being and minimized suffering.
load more comments
(18 replies)
communism always fails because it's authoritarian, that's the same reason the west, the east and everything else will fall
view more: next ›