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Microsoft has confirmed that Windows 11 users will not be able to uninstall the controversial “Recall” feature, despite earlier reports suggesting otherwise. Recall, part of the Copilot+ suite announced in May, automatically captures screenshots of user activity on the operating system including sensitive information such as passwords or financial data https://digitalmarketreports.com/news/25091/microsoft-recall-feature-on-windows-11-not-removable-after-all/ Do yourself a favor and get rid of Windows from your life—enough of these greedy companies. #privacy #security

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] Definitely. I have always believed Microsoft and Windows as an op system were complete and utter crap. Never had a prove it was otherwise! Till now. 😂

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] Just keep in mind that you will also be part of other persons Recall if you communicate (Email, IM, Videoconference…) with persons using Windows 11 with Recall activated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

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Microsoft hat bestätigt, dass Windows 11-Nutzer die umstrittene "Recall"-Funktion nicht deinstallieren können, obwohl frühere Berichte etwas anderes vermuten ließen. Recall, Teil der im Mai angekündigten Copilot+-Suite, erfasst automatisch Screenshots von Benutzeraktivitäten auf dem Betriebssystem, einschließlich sensibler Informationen wie Passwörter oder Finanzdaten.

#privacy #security

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] Recall is the reason why I let Windows down two months ago, a move I'm happy with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] literally why??? Casual users usually don't even know how to access the optional features menu. Just seems like pointless bad PR

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] .....this basically signs a death sentence for Windows in government or health environments. This...there's no way this is going to stand - the same three-letters are going to lean hard on MS to get it off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

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This is the best Windows feature yet. My parents agreed to try out Linux for the first time because of it. Thank you Microsoft <3

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

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My next computer will likely be full Linux Mint.

#privacy #security

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

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People have been complaining about Microsoft (and their products) for over 20 years.... If you still use their products, then it's not Microsoft who's the problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] been thinking about switching for a few months.
Kinda not surprised.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] who cares, ms-windows is the past...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] This is when you switch to Linux. If anyone reading this doesn't know what distro to use, go to distrochooser.de

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] So, if it's part of CoPilot; would uninstalling CoPilot remove everything, including recall?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] Appearently it is unclear whether it will be non removable in the EU. I found an article in German.

This is a security desaster...

https://www.gamestar.de/artikel/windows-recall-nicht-deinstallieren,3418966.html

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] Epic Fail right there. I might install Linux Mint instead of paying for Windows 11.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] ... I have one PC loaded with 11 as a sort of testbed device.

After reading about this last night, I ordered new SSD's and it will absolutely have a fresh Linux install by the weekend.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] reading this is making me mad, cos now I have to learn how to unix.
The "right, that does it" point is reached

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] [unchecks box for 'recall' feature]
fixed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] What are some good user friendly alternatives?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] can one of you IT managers or related explain to me whether Recall is baked in #Windows11 per se, or whether it is dependent only on #Copilot+ being enabled? I am confused by this from @theverge "Security researchers initially found that the #Recall database wasn’t encrypted. #Microsoft is now making the AI-powered feature an opt-in experience instead of on by default, encrypting the database, and authenticating through Windows Hello." https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/2/24233992/microsoft-recall-windows-11-uninstall-feature-bug

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

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It’s unbelievable…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] I stole this toot - on Fedora.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

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I have Linux Mint for about 15 years and I'm very very happy with it !!!

but you may prefer Windows !

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] I'm just presuming Winaero Tweaker will have a way to cripple it. I need to give that crew some money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] I haven’t had a windows pc in 20 years, but I have an Xbox. I do these daily searches & things for rewards points, often in bing or edge, & I really despise it every time. It’s always broken or failing in some way & it’s a benign, nothing of a task. I would die a slow painful death if I had to do anything like work or business on this OS!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

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The problem is getting businesses off of Windows.

Treadmill inertia is hard to stop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

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This guy will probably include a Recall remover sooner or later. Winaero Tweaker so far does not seem to have one, but probably will too.

I'm just freezing my Windows partitions at Win 10 Pro and not letting them 11 themselves.

https://christitustech.github.io/winutil/devdocs/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

don't worry, with time an update will install recall to 10, just like they backported their massive telemetry to 7

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@[email protected] This is kind of deceptive language, no? It can be disabled. That's functionally equivalent?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

until it mysteriously gets re-enabled by itself, as it is usual with updates.

today I have just found that even though I have disabled reporting start menu searches to bing on my parents' PC in windows 10, it still does it! I have double checked the registry setting, updated O&O ShutUp10 and turned the setting off and back on. it. does. not. care.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] no one should be moving to the new Windows OS. It is essentially the US government and mass surveillance. Linux is not that hard anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] SCHOOL DISTRICTS are now forcing their employees to work on pcs reimaged with Windows 11 for 'security'. Surely the idiot Superintendents were smitten by the sales pitch and shiny objects shown in return for selling everyone's privacy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] It is called “Recall”. How can they recall Recall?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@[email protected] I'm using W10 Pro on the netbook and mini desktop and already that one has become a full job to keep it tamed.
It was removing all the unwanted gaming crap, the advertising s***, the 'ET phone home', the 'You should backup in OneDrive', etc, etc...
It is that some software I need doesn't have an alternative on Ubuntu, sigh!

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