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Kev Quirk, one of the admins of Fosstodon (a Mastodon instance), destroys Meta in an email exchange. (fosstodon.org)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The exchange is about Meta's upcoming ActivityPub-enabled network Threads. Meta is calling for a meeting, his response is priceless!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This has me thinking, is there a space set aside for putting profits over people instances out and center so admins can preemptively defederate and/or block them?

I haven't found one yet but I am rather new to this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I think it'll be harder than that, even.

Meta doesn't need to spin up an instance to abuse user data on the fediverse, they just need an app that can read it. A hypothetical meta fediverse app could allow users to select their own instance and still read and collect data on the connected instances. As far as I know, there is no way in the protocol to prevent this.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It‘s not just about the data—which is bad enough but as you said they could just write a crawler to get at it. The question is why would they want to federate and why now? Meta being Meta the most likely reasons are terrible for the fediverse and it reminds me very much of Google and xmpp. I saw a really good writeup on this yesterday: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Meta does some interesting open source work, extra hands on fediverse open source might be reasonable.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A more important topic is, what federated data will be kept on Meta, and most importantly HOW that data will be processed/used/sold by Meta.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (19 children)

I’m surprised by all the negativity. Is it not a good thing Meta is going to use open standard instead of a proprietary one?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Meta is not going to "use" this technology, they want to own it. And you can be certain they will try their best to build a walled garden with a Facebook login, so the masses pick their form of fediverse rather than the one not controlled by big tech.

Peoples negativity comes from experience with these corporations. You are probably pretty young if you don't see how bad they are.