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[–] [email protected] 132 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That will teach the economy.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago

Executions will continue until GDP improves.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That window just jumped right out in front of her!

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That line...

"She fell out of the window of her apartment, unfortunately, it was not possible to save her, the injuries she received were incompatible with life," the source said.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That caught my eye too and made me laugh. I'm guessing it was something lost in translation.

[–] emzili 22 points 4 months ago

You might think that but it's actually established parlance

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incompatible_with_life

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Sounds like 'head separated from body' or alike injuries.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Worst case of being cut in half I've ever seen

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

More likely she braced her fall with her skull, but her neck muscles were inadequate to the task of keeping her alive. I think Russians need to start putting in cybernetic shock absorbers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I just wanted to give an example of an injury incompatible with life. /u/[email protected] thankfully linked the Wikipedia article onto the definition of the fixed term. From the linked Wikipedia article total body disruption might be a possible trauma caused by

a fall at terminal velocity onto a solid surface or water [.]

The injury you suggested probably doesn't count yet, as it's not 'evident' enough to be incompatible with life.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Every time I'm near a window I look behind me to make sure a Russian is not there.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago

Just say "Wow. Putin sure is a swell guy." before you approach.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago

She must not have said the sweet nothings Putin wanted to hear.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

So is Russia's plan at this point just to kill everyone in their country very very slowly?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They just have to be unpredictable and unexpected. The idea is to have everyone terrified at all times. That is the most efficient scenario for control, as you don't have to police actual rules if the rules are made up and the consequences are lethal.

This is pretty typical in totalitarian terrorist governments like Russia, NK and past dictatorships like Cambodia, Libya, Chile and Uganda.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The idea is to have everyone terrified at all times. That is the most efficient scenario for control, as you don’t have to police actual rules if the rules are made up and the consequences are lethal.

Doesn't this method have diminishing returns? As soon as the populace believes anything and everything will get them killed by the state, there's nothing preventing the populous from rising against the state because they have nothing to lose.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's a balancing point. Most people aren't really able to process the idea of "they came for my neighbor and I said nothing" and do something about it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Perhaps, but eventually one member of nearly every family will have been "came for". At that point it ceases to be a theoretical exercise and becomes a practical reality.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

Putin’s plan, and anyone who supports him, but yeah. This is the look of a fascist nation, just kill off anyone who opposes you as the world slowly unifies against your actions until someone in your country kills you, or those you’ve wronged reach your doorstep and you kill yourself. Granted not all fascist nations end up like this, often they have years of terrible reign for their people, it generally only changes when they decide they need more land

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Poisoned tea wasn't available in her region apparently

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Cheaper to pay an fsb agent to push out a window

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

Golly, they sure do make flimsy windows in Russia.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They need to spice these up, it's getting repetitive. How about "Pavement suddenly accelerates upwards, killing top Russian economist; police blame window."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Well it is true, in Soviet Russia ground hit you!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

It's a pandemic at this point.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Except for children and the elderly, fatal falls from windows are not all that common it would seem. Most places.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I mean, yeah.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Did windows/defenestration shit ever happen in Ukraine like before all the current stuff?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This happened in Moscow, Russia.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I know, I'm asking if this kinda thing was ever occurring in Ukraine prior to the war (people falling out of windows). It seems incredibly Russian

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

The USSR were high on assassinations of their own people if that's what you're asking. Obviously it's not a brilliant strategy because it just means that the people who are the most talented are going to not want to rise to the top or going to want to the rise to the top in other countries.

It's ultimately self-defeating, which of course is why only Putin thinks it's a swell idea.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Is it, or was it before the war? In Ukraine, like you're asking?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Its not a Ukrainian thing at all, its the Kremlin.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's tangential to the war in Ukraine. Russia has been accused recently of reporting false economic numbers to hide the war's impact.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Agreed, Putin is worried about support at home and also needs people abroad to think Russia is strong and can continue the Kremlin's barbaric war. The economist didn't want to cook the books like Putin suggested, so they were murdered.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Darn. Wasn't the Economist I was hoping it would be.