Actually everyone I knew who was watching F1 in Germany, stopped so once it went to pay TV.
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Australian who stopped watching once it went to paytv
Actually everyone I knew who was watching F1 in Germany, stopped so once it went to pay TV.
It's not like football became unpopular when the matches were divided between three or so paid services (Dazn, Sky, and I believe some are even on Amazon) and only a fraction ending up on free TV.
Btw: Some free VPN option like UrbanVPN and the races are free to watch on the Swiss TV's streaming platform and I'm not aware of any spike in F1 popularity when Sky Germany had to stream two races on YouTube.
I will never understand F1 fans reluctance to accept that F1 simply fell out of flavour. There's always some excuse.
Thereβs always some excuse.
Looking for reasons is not the same as making up excuses.
The green washing has also put me off the sport after 26 years. That and the Americanisation/enshitification of the show.
Donβt blame America for this one. We usually get the Sky broadcast from the UK. Itβs Englishitification if anything.
Donβt blame America for this one.
Liberty Media is US American, so....
It's an English sport, or at least it was. It's not anymore.
What do you consider the Americanisation of F1? I don't watch F1 but I do watch other American sports.
It's becoming more artificial, and having DHL fastest pistop bullshit, Pirelli fastest lap etc. Everything is just an opportunity to increase cashflow. I know it has always been a business first, but I saw this stuff 20+ years ago on indycar/NASCAR and made me gag then. I'm just old school now, and prefer lower tech cars and a straightforward show without artificial drama.
I dream of Ferrari 156 in Monaco.. pop the team into those old school cars and letem race.
It's becoming more and more a dramatized event where entertainment is the focus and not a sports competition.
I'm a vegetarian who doesn't use AC in the summer, doesn't drive... And I flipping love F1. I race in VR, I love the sport and I dig how they are trying to make it less destructive.
How about ban private jets flying into every race? That would be awesome. Just something stupid like that where Toto has to ride with the proles in coach.
Him smashing up those weak tray tables.. yeah that would be great
Meanwhile in F1: Cling to combustion engines at all costs and shout lies about "sustainable" fuels.
The cars are not the sustainability issue. If every modern car was as efficient as F1 cars then we would be in a much better spot regarding climate change. The issue is with the massive transportation effort involving planes, trucks, and ships required to transport materials between the races.
It's about the perception, not facts. The general public does not know about transportation in F1. They know that F1 cars still make wroom when they sit in the growing number of VW id.3 cars that are making silent SciFi sounds.
They are very efficient yes. But at the same time they aren't very reliable. If everyone was running an F1 style engine and would have to replace loads of parts constantly we would be in a much worse spot.
If it was such a good system don't you think we would already have such engines in regular cars ? There's a reason why we don't. Because these systems only work when that engine has to only run for little time in very confined scenarios.
They aren't very reliable because they run at the ragged limits. It is a competition, after all. Motorsport has always been like that, nothing to do with current PU tech.
The reason we don't use them in regular cars is because it's expensive to make, and combustion engines are being phased out anyway.
And the only reason they are so efficient is because they run them at the limits.
No, running engines at the limits makes things less efficient, which is why on fuel-limited tracks you see a lot of lift and coast and turning down engine modes when that was a thing.
The efficiency comes from having two different complex energy recovery systems, which is what makes them expensive to transfer to the road.
Still, you'd see more real world applications if countries' carbon regulations were tighter.
Combustion engines are "fun" so they belong in motorsports and hobbies.
Ironic for a country that closed their nuclear power plants to open coal ones instead
You act like anyone in Germany thinks that coal is greener than nuclear. Believe it or not, but no on does that
They are also lying by claiming nuclear is being replaced by coal. How can nuclear be replaced by coal when share of coal is also declining at the same time as nuclear is declining.
People don't care about facts. They just want to spread their uninformed hysteria about Germany.
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You mean the country that had to ramp up burning fossil fuels because France can't use their reactors in the summer because of cooling water from rivers getting too hot? https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/warming-rivers-threaten-frances-already-tight-power-supply-2022-07-15/
Yeah, great argument for nuclear you're making there...
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Oh what a sursprise that a country who has no final storage for nuclear waste decided not to produce more nuclear waste instead of just putting it somewhere and hoping the barrels will not leak again.
The mistake was not closint down uneconomical and toxic nuclear power plants. The mistake happened years before. It was selling out our solar tech to China
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Why do people like you constantly spread lies lmao. Coal usage is dropping despite not using a tiny amount of nuclear anymore.
Funny how people are down voting my comment regardless that it is the truth.
Here for the uneducated people:
Coal-fired power generation also fell: Lignite-fired power plants generated about 41.2 TWh, a sharp decline of 21 percent from 2022 (52.1 TWh). Net production from coal-fired power plants also decreased by 23 percent, from 26.2 TWh in 2022 down to 20.1 TWh in 2023. Electricity generation from natural gas decreased only slightly from 24.3 TWh to 23.4 TWh. In addition to gas-fired power plants for the public power supply, gas-fired plants in the mining and manufacturing sectors also supply the industrial own consumption. These approximately produced an additional 24 TWh for industrial captive use.
Stats say coal share is dropping after nuclear shut down yet people online claim nuclear is being replaced by coal.
Energy from coal production fed to the grid got to 33% in 2022 from 30% in 2021 according to the Federal Statistical Office of Germany (+8.6% YoY)
It's not very representative to compare just two data points. If you look at a larger time window you can see that black coal is declining and brown coal is more or less constant https://www.energie.de/et/news-detailansicht/nsctrl/detail/News/stromerzeugung-rueckblick-auf-den-energiemix-seit-1990-zeigt-die-risiken-uebergrosser-dynamik
And most of that was to compensate the lack of french export to the European grid and not because Germany shut down nuclear.
Look at 2023 data for example.
Coal-fired power generation also fell: Lignite-fired power plants generated about 41.2 TWh, a sharp decline of 21 percent from 2022 (52.1 TWh). Net production from coal-fired power plants also decreased by 23 percent, from 26.2 TWh in 2022 down to 20.1 TWh in 2023.
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Simracing 4eva
Modded Asseto in VR, ACC, dirt rally 2, even EA F1... Yep VR simracing is mind blowing
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