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The Spanish government has a plan to prevent kids from watching porn online: Meet the porn passport.

Officially (and drily) called the Digital Wallet Beta (Cartera Digital Beta), the app Madrid unveiled on Monday would allow internet platforms to check whether a prospective smut-watcher is over 18. Porn-viewers will be asked to use the app to verify their age. Once verified, they'll receive 30 generated “porn credits” with a one-month validity granting them access to adult content. Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits.

You have to request more porn credits from the government if you need more? Don't want the government to be tracking this data of you. This is a privacy issue

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It's always porn, isn't it? We don't need to protect children from misinformation, fascism, violence, racism, discrimination or exploitation on the internet, it's always just porn for some reason...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Yes, porn and not giving away all of their data to keep them safe

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (12 children)

I am against porn, but this don't solve anything.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I see Spain wants ALL of my money. Sucks for them I don't live there and even if I did, I'm better at Internet than their legislators.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Sounds like someone in the Spanish govt is familiar with adult bookstore glory holes.

porn credits. gtfh

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Enthusiasm is funny ha

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I wish they would just push all the big mainstream porn sites to remove the most abusive misogynistic content rather than slapping these checks on everything.

Also this will never be okay until there is a zero knowledge version that means neither the government, nor the sites, nor any other party can establish a given person's habits which is probably not something they'll ever do because tracking is probably part of the point.

I'm not a fan of the easy access to porn that kids have or the proliferation of the industry in general but I am worried that as part of this harmless things like erotic roleplaying websites will be swept up as part of it and well I use those. And their point is not porn though some people host and share porn as part of it (which is why it'd get swept up with it eventually probably), it's about writing, smutty, erotic writing. And I'd rather not have to tie my identity to my desires to roleplay out an elf who ends up making “friends” with the wolf-men tribe to my real life identity (I'm not claiming that's something I do there but it's an example of something that would be kind of embarrassing for others to know and it's far from the weirdest stuff that goes on in places like that).

Government having credits for how often I could say log in and continue a long-term erotic writing campaign with someone is just weird but that's the end point of this kind of thing. Having credits seems not helpful anyways, the true porn addicts are just going to download stuff then share it in private forums, discords, p2p, etc. If the point is to stop kids from accessing this the credits thing seems odd.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lol most porn is made in the US. How is Spain supposed to regulate US porn streaming companies showing content filmed and distributed by US companies?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Easy, they can set guidelines and block in the country sites that do not follow these guidelines.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how one would find an exhaustive list of porn sites. Using a blacklist seems like a hard problem because of discovery here.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

So the reason they give you multiple credits instead of just a 30 day cookie when you sign into a website is that it's anonymised right? You generate them and save them offline and the government doesn't know which token belongs to who?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Wouldn’t it be more effective to just grant each user a way to pass verification with age with a token tied to some system and simply use a Ring signature so that user privacy is preserved and no need for limits?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

@Salix

Lets see how this pans out and how well it works ( or does not work )

What we perhaps need to do is start building respect for each other,

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Officially (and drily) called the Digital Wallet Beta (Cartera Digital Beta), the app Madrid unveiled on Monday would allow internet platforms to check whether a prospective smut-watcher is over 18.

Once verified, they'll receive 30 generated “porn credits” with a one-month validity granting them access to adult content.

While the tool has been criticized for its complexity, the government says the credit-based model is more privacy-friendly, ensuring that users' online activities are not easily traceable.

It will be voluntary, as online platforms can rely on other age-verification methods to screen out inappropriate viewers.

It heralds an EU law going into force in October 2027, which will require websites to stop minors from accessing porn.Eventually, Madrid's porn passport is likely to be replaced by the EU’s very own digital identity system (eIDAS2) — a so-called wallet app allowing people to access a smorgasbord of public and private services across the whole bloc.

“We are acting in advance and we are asking platforms to do so too, as what is at stake requires it,” José Luis Escrivá, Spain’s digital secretary, told Spanish newspaper El País.


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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Tinfoil hat time! Also written thinking more about the US, where this sort of thing is also a growing topic.

Perhaps this government anti-porn law stuff is backed by people who actually want to dismantle government altogether. And not in a fun Communist way but in a privatize everything, corporate serfdom way.

By pushing for the government to do stupid and unpopular things, they can get people mad at the very concept of government. They can then use that to dismantle things like nationalized health care, fire departments, whatever.

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