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It's actually not a bug, but obvious behavior.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 months ago (1 children)

TL;DR for anybody worried. systemd-tmpfiles --purge was too broad in scope (and has a confusing name) so now you must be more specific when using it to avoid accidentally deleting things.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

But you should have read the docs completely and figured that out /s

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago

using systemd instead of rm -Rf is not the Unix way!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I've been saying, Microsoft hired Poettering to thank him for fucking up Linux so much with systemd.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Thanks Microsoft for spotting that, and thanks to Google and CloudFlare for blocking or redirecting Polifyll.io network traffic.

Credit where credit is due.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

If it was intended but not properly documented as it says, why does it keep being called a bug?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

The bug is the lack of documentation and that a simple unguarded command can erase all user's data on the system.

Also, the principle of least surprise would like a word.

If I look at the command line arguments of a program called "systemd-tmpfiles" and one of them is called "purge" I will generally assume that option will purge temporary files.

Now it turns out that someone decided that this program would be a simple way to do something with /home directories(*) so they included /home in the config file for the program, the file that the program reads by default when it is invoked.

Who decided it would be a good idea for it to deal with /home?

Wellllll...

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/main/tmpfiles.d/home.conf

(*)I have no idea what this program is doing with /home in its config file. I will presume that there is a useful and mostly logical reason for it, and that this command line option was just an unfortunate footgun for those users who were not intimately familiar with systemd.

[–] NekkoDroid 3 points 4 months ago

There were talks a few years ago about changing sd-tmpfiles name but it was decide not worth it due to the churn and bikeshedding it would cause.

sd-tmpfiles is generally used to create, modify (e.g. permissions) and remove directories on the system. The home.conf is intended for systems that only ship /usr/ (e.g. containers) to create /home/ and /srv/ as a separate subvolume on btrfs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I will presume that there is a useful and mostly logical reason for it

Home directories are temporary, obviously

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

“Breaking userspace” is often considered a bug even if the code doing so is working as intended. Deleting user data because they bundle a config file deep in the directory tree for a completely different use case was not intended behavior even if one of them is defensive about the logic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

it was clearly a feature

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Oh that’s a good normal thing for it to do.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

So it doesn't break userspace anymore?