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Scotty’s appearance was already spoiled by online leaks, but I was happy that he showed up nonetheless. I gotta say, though, I will miss Carol Kane being weird and zany :P

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was happy to see him. I was worried they were going to lay it on a bit thick with the “miracle worker” schtick, wut it turned out ok. and thank goodness is has accent is real!

the “hi, professor…” thing with Carol Kane made me laugh

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Luckily I avoided all spoilers for this episode so seeing Scott was a surprise. Loved the portrayal. It felt like Scotty.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't know and I was bummed. I've just come from startrek.website ranting about it (glad to see you picking this place up!) already, but basically I'm not a fan of SNW being a TOS prequel ... I want it and expected it TBH to be its own thing. Kind of like a reimagining of what TOS could have been had "The Cage" been picked up. Sure cameos and easter eggs about TOS would be nice and make sense. And towards the end of show maybe something about how the transition happens. But otherwise, its own thing is what I wanted and I'm bummed at how nostalgic Trek has become and honestly think it's bad for the franchise.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have to admit, I wish they’d just leave the past the past. although… when we saw what their ideas was for what’s going on post-VOY/TNG, that was terrible, too! PIC only ended well because they brought Terry Matalas in to save S3 which, thank goodness, was actually pretty great, but, still. It’s going to take a lot of heavy lifting to clean up the mess they made of the Federation in the first two seasons.

Still, though, I agree that it’s time to leave the past in the past and move on from Kirk, Spock, and all the rest. someone in another post mentioned possibly exploring the early-24th century? there’s a lot of time between TUC and TNG that’s unexplored. Seems like there could be something there?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think Picard S1 had great ideas for new Trek but struggled with execution.

  • Basically exploring the world from outside of the perspective of Starfleet but very much centred around a character that we all know as basically the definition of starfleet. Great idea TBH.
  • And in that connection Seven and some of the ideas of the other characters all make a lot of sense.
  • Beyond that, exploring a world where the federation did something not awesome along with some interesting world building around romulans and AI.

All cool ideas! My main wish with Picard is that it were given more time to breath and work itself out before jumping the gun on its main story ideas.

it’s time to leave the past in the past and move on from Kirk, Spock

I mean, what did TNG, DS9 and VOY do?

  • what’s it like a 100 years in the future?
  • what’s it like at the war torn fringe in a space station
  • what’s it like on the other side of the galaxy without any federation to help.

I mean really, the staleness is getting MCU embarrassing. I really wish fans could step back a little and think about it for a moment. I think the excitement for legacy after PIC S3 indicates the desire is there, it’s just that we’re eating up the nostalgia stuff way too much.

When Scotty turned up I literally sighed. In an episode about the Gorn with a main character with ptsd (La’an) and another with a conflict aversion story arc (Pike), we get a bunch of Scotty performing miracles and back story about how he was an underperforming student. OK! Great story telling guys!

Another dimension of TOS nostalgia is that it’s going to undermine the feminine cast. Kirk, Scotty, Bones, Sulu, Chekhov are all men.