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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago

As an added bonus they'll kill your dog if you want. And if you don't.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

This seems like the police are giving the caller a choice to just say "ok, well never mind then." In truth, it was too late for the caller to avoid someone getting shot about halfway through the first panel.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

In the NSW (Australian) emergency services, there’s now a division that’s been slowly rolling out called the PACER (Police, Ambulance, Clinical, Early Response) program where Police can have mental health clinicians who are based with them attend to a call to provide immediate advice, support and mental health therapy in some cases. It’s still a pilot program at the moment but where it has been rolled out it’s significantly reduced mental health presentations to hospital at the very least. I’m keen for statistics to be seen around reductions in arrests or charges, because I think they’re likely to follow.

Thankfully Police shootings in NSW are generally pretty rare, but they still happen. Recently (2023) a 95 year old woman using a walking frame and wielding a knife was tasered by a cop and died a week later from her injuries, and back in 2019 a man was executed by three shots to the back while having a psychotic episode after officers ~~disabled their bodycams~~ (edit: I misremembered - the cops that stormed the house weren’t wearing bodycams at all). We don’t have it as bad as some do, but it’s still not a great situation.

Although we in Australia are pretty frickin arse-backwards and conservative about stupid shit, I do have a lot of faith and hope in programs like PACER. I just hope it can be expanded and become mandatory statewide, but the cynic in me says that’s not likely. As someone who’s had to call Police for a relative’s mental health crisis before, I can definitely understand the fear.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just wow, were the bodycam cops disbarred or at least fined?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I misremembered and have edited my post above: the unit stupidly doesn’t wear bodycams at all.

However, the tactical police units who stormed McKenzie's home and shot him did not wear body cameras.

Under previous questioning, one of the senior constables involved said, "obviously the tactical guys wanted all body-worn switched off".

Deputy State Coroner Harriet Grahame asked one of the tactical officers why the unit does not use body-worn video.

Officer T1 said the team did not want tactics being given out and "inadvertently it always seems to get out on social media".

https://9news.com.au/article/83310510-9e0e-44a3-84b0-5bd275dce9af

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

The article doesn't load for me.

Of course police doesn't want their "go in and shoot" tactics to get out in social media. In this day and age, cops not wearing bodycams should be considered negligent.

I hate using this argument but "they have nothing to hide don't they?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Hope the patient is Face McShooty

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Yes, all of them