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SS: Microsoft wants total control over console and PC gaming.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If game companies would stop consolidating themselves into bigger and bigger corporations, that would be great. The bigger the company, the more profits they need in order to sustain themselves at their size. There is only so much you can profit from games without turning them into microtransaction mess. There must be a sweet spot for game company size so they're able to produce AAA games without needing to add microtransaction to make the game profitable to pay their employees.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would also be great if game companies stopped trying to isolate themselves. Stop building your own launchers and shops and stop resisting GeForce Now and similar services.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It'll happen. It's what always happens. They'll be forced to diversify if they don't do so willingly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In the past it seemed like the opposite is happening. Each publisher pumps out their own store, so they can circumvent the cuts they would have to pay to Steam, GOG, etc. Generally their own stores and launchers are worse than the established ones (especially Steam) and in the end I have to run even more garbage on my machine.

Some pull out of GFN because they want to push their own streaming ambitions, some pull out for absolutely no visible reason. Activision being such a case. They don't have a competing streaming service, but deny GFN from hosting their games. Beats me what the fuck they are thinking.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh no, they appear to have highlighted all of the important parts with a sharpie

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You only have to look at Microsoft's squandered purchase of Rare to really understand where their motives lie.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Honestly I feel like that was the point it became obvious. That was just a fuck you.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Microsoft wants total control over every market they can

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They did a real good job with Redfall after the last purchase. And Starfield keeps getting delayed... gotta release good exclusives to eliminate anybody lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Not if you just buy the whole game industry and make it exclusive to your console!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And Starfield keeps getting delayed

To be fair to Microsoft, that was because (like most Bethesda games) it was a complete mess and needed a lot more QA work. I'd rather it get delayed rather than released broken.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's Microsoft's playbook. If you don't offer a better product than your competitor, pull out every dirty trick in the book to undermine them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

God forbid companies actually improve their products? Seriously the greed that has amassed throughout the decades is insane.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Matt Booty made a stupid booty mistake. Also, every big company wants a monopoly.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yikes. Sounds like the FTC needs to step in and wrist-slap them with a meaningless fine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

how about a day's profits? okay, a half-day's profits, final offer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Anticompetitive practices. Those are illegal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, Microsoft would like to dominate the console market and leverage that to push people into the Microsoft PC ecosystem.

Since they've done poorly with the "make a better console with games people want" strategy, they've pivoted to their strength, which is a huge pile of money that they can deploy to try and get control of the content which Sony can't match.

They'll say what they need to in order to get this approved, but long term they'll absolutely leverage their ownership to achieve their goals.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yes and they also want to dominate the "absolutely everything else" market ; if not now, eventually. If they could just own all the world's data and all the worlds operating systems and all the world's gaming platforms and all the world's everything-else, that would be just ducky, I'm sure.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From the link:

Yes, but: A Microsoft representative told Axios that the company cannot legally share the email's contents, but that it was sent by Booty in 2019.

That would mean that whatever Booty may have said about Xbox trying to beat PlayStation preceded the company's early 2022 bid to buy Activision Blizzard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah… don’t they get that makes it worse since it shows forethought?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That is making the assumption that the statement - which we haven't actually seen - can be tied back to the Activision thing whatsoever.

Without actually knowing what the statement was, this is nothing but inviting people to fill in the blank however they wish.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

TLDR: "Microsoft does a capitalism."

I get why it's news, but also, isn't this exactly what publicly traded companies are supposed to do in our current system?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I see we've already got to the comment without reading the article phase of the fediverse 😞

Its an entirely redacted email...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Note that the lawyers are claiming this about the email, and we don't know what the email says.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

In my experience, any sentence submitted in an appeal that starts with "The court also failed to consider" is usually a long shot. Especially if it's about stuff like whether certain evidence should be considered or published, because appellate courts almost never modify the decisions of the trial courts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is a surprise?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Without the text of the email how does this news mean anything other than "one side of a legal battle believes they are in the right"?

And aside from the fact that I'm not sure how buying Activision would "eliminate" any gaming platform, how much does that differ from the stance any business has? Does anyone believe that Sony is not out to "eliminate" Microsoft, to borrow the term?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Because Activision is the single most important third-party game maker in the world outside of Japan. You wouldn't believe how many tens of millions of people buy PlayStations only to play CoD to the exclusion of everything else. If Microsoft gets CoD as an exclusive, then Sony will lose half their audience outside of Japan.

And Microsoft is a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition. Sony can't eliminate Microsoft; a lot of their software was made for Windows.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still waiting for the ground breaking next gen game bursting with creativity released from one of these Microsoft acquisitions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't followed the hype cycle but is it looking like it's going to be anything more than Daggerfall in space? Which is a great core concept, but it's not exactly "bursting with creativity".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Daggerfall itself was a level of creativity we haven't seen in the gaming industry since. Obviously they aren't just reskinning that game cause it's OLD. To say that Starfield is not creative because it is "just" copying Daggerfall sounds a little tonedeaf.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was a genuine question, because I'm honestly not keyed in to the marketing buzz, and I'm generally disinterested in big publisher marketing. Also, "Daggerfall in space" wasn't a dig; I absolutely love No Man's Sky, but that game to me, in terms of ethos and mechanics, is Space Daggerfall in all the best ways.

I should also stipulate, I'd say "creativity" to me means exceptional aesthetic qualities, writing, or mechanical novelty. There are many very good and fun games that I wouldn't call "bursting with creativity". I love Skyrim, it's an incredibly entertaining, beautiful, and compelling game; but it was a step back for the series in terms of innovating the genre the way Daggerfall and Morrowind did.

But yeah, to be perfectly honest, with small developers who treat their workers well like Motion Twin, Supergiant, or Hello Games, I can't really get invested in any Bethesda games beyond being kind of curious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's totally fair, apologies if I came across a bit blunt. And to be fair: the jury is definitely out on whether this game is "bursting with creativity". My point was just that it being heavily influenced by Daggerfall does not imply a lack of creativity, if anything quite the opposite. That said this is Bethesda and their track record for creativity certainly seems to be on a downward spiral..

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

eliminated playstation

LOL

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Every company wants to be a monopoly and not have to compete. Not sure why this is surprising especially considered Microsoft's historic monopoly on desktop.