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[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 months ago

Mr Sunak said: “... there are forces trying to divide our society in this increasingly uncertain world."

Yes, Rishi, and you lead one of those forces, you oleaginous minifig.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People who say there's no difference between Tories and Labour can get in the sea. Or do some national service, idk.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The people who say that sort of thing heard someone else say it once and just parrot it. When you try and delve deeper into their political philosophy you realize that there's nothing under the surface.

My Brother-In-Law is like this, What he knows about the political situation of this country wouldn't fill the back of a postage stamp. Yet he's perfectly comfortable telling me how all political parties are the same.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Sometimes i find people will also use it as a 'discussion shut down' when they don't want to get pulled into a larger conversation about politics.

They have their reasons, like knowing they have little knowledge on the subject, or knowing the person they're talking to and not wishing to engage with them too heavily (i may be guilty of employing this tactic at times).

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Another unfunded pledge from the Conservatives. What do we want? Housing! What will we get? Conscription!

David Cameron already did this anyway with the voluntary National Citizen Service. He also promised to eventually make it involuntary but never did, presumably because it was unworkable, expensive or both. So, what has changed to make it workable or inexpensive?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

The realistic prospect of an armed conflict with Russia is what has changed.

Whether we cannot afford it is irrelevant, we may have no choice. We couldn't afford it in 1939 and it wasn't long ago that we'd only finished paying for our WW2 debts.

Unless something drastic happens that Putin comes to his senses we are in most likelihood heading for very dark times.

We're not the only country considering a return to National Service/Conscription.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (13 children)

Which is exactly why the army has been asking for more funding, which it actually needs. It doesn't want conscription, which it recognises would be a waste of resources.

Other countries considering a bad idea doesn't make it a good idea.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

The military part of the proposed new national service is going to be optional however, those “conscripted” can choose a civilian volunteering path instead. So I’m not sure how this scheme would help with the threat of future conflict when nobody chooses the military option.

It’s a ridiculous gimmick to distract from the Tories failures in areas people do care about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Tbh as much as this annoys me, if it became mandatory I wouldn't really resist it. Because I can see the necessity of it, and it could easily do me some good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Only 5 between 1995 and 2024? That's less than schools, lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I quite often think about Cameron’s ‘Big Society’, and how the continual underfunding of public services over the past 14 years has led us to a place where we’re essentially there anyway.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Rishi really doesn't want people voting Tory, does he?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Worse. He is using people who would be very unlikely to vote tory. The youth.

As slaves to convince old folks who have lost faith to vote tory.

Just like he is fucking the disabled its another culture war attacking those who refuse to support him.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This is probably aimed at people who are to old (and rich) to do military service anyway and with an ever aging population it might work? 🥵

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Considering the voting age is 18, vast majority of voters won't have to do it. Probably none of them considering it's a 2025 thing

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Old people often have grandkids, though. Sure, there will be some that will think that it will do them good, but surely some others will not like the idea of their grandkids having to give up a year of their life.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

They know they're doomed and just appealing to the faithful.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

One step closer to bringing back Victorian workhouses

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

Ah yes, that will make new Torys. Boot camp. Break their will to make them into good/conservative citizens. Don't see that working.... though I can see old voters (who didn't actually do it either) might think that.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

We funked up the NHS Policing and local services. By cutting funding to the bone. While refusing to invest.

But thats OK. We will use 25 days of teenage slavery to fix a bit of it.

Or you can learn to kill people ready for our next oil war.

Of course we will concentrate on selling how beneficial it is to the youth. While helpfully forgetting to mention. You can all already choose to do this shit. All we are adding is a mandatory requirement. So slavery to achive our own goals. And make some old folks vote for us.

Basically another culture war using folks who won't vote tory to convince folks with nothing to lose to vote tory.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

Fucking prick rishi can go fuck a barbed rusty pipe. How about.you do.some fucking real work you self centred fucking muppet

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Good luck Rish with trying this with Born Iron. IRA haven't gone away mate.

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