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Linux not in meme (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Windows malware

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

always been. In fact all proprietary program is a kind of malware.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is it malware when the user allows it?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yes, without a doubt Microsoft Windows is malware. And soon will introduce to us, adware. Yaaaay.

Fk Microsoft and it's decision makers.

[+] [email protected] -8 points 5 months ago (10 children)

I agree with the general sentiment but it literally says it will update outside of active hours. So as non-disruptive as possible.

And the privacy toggles are set when you install the OS. You can untick all of them the last time I checked.

Sorry for being such a pedant

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

And this update outside active hours will have a good chance to "fix" your privacy settings again. Without you noticing. One basically needs a tool that confirms that your privacy settings are still active. And then wait how long it takes Microsoft to declare that tool as "malware".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I find it hilarious that Linux users STILL continue to hate on Windows Update when memes like this exist.

In my experience, Linux wants to update itself far more frequently than Windows (which is really generally no more than once a month these days), and it DOESN'T EVEN OFFER THE OPTION of automatically postponing it to a more convenient time. Yes, you can always say "not now", but then it'll just keep bugging you again until you say yes.

Ironically, at this point, updates on Linux are basically everything that Windows used to get made fun of in the past (for good reason!), but while the situation has actually improved on Windows, on Linux it's only become worse as distributions grow and updates become even more frequent.

[–] Zink 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think Linux seems to have more updates because the package update manager is taking care of every installed program as well as the OS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's certainly true, and there may even be advantages to this because security issues might get fixed more quickly, but it doesn't change the fact that the annoyance factor is at least as high as that of Windows used to be, and there is no convenient option to have it taken care of automatically, say, at shutdown.

Instead of making fun of Windows, it would serve Linux far better to actually address this issue, even if that means copying what Microsoft did here.

[–] Zink 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don’t know how much this varies by distro, but I find the updates completely non intrusive. I think in Fedora I’ve seen one or two “critical updates are available” or “version N+1 is available” popups, but they aren’t intrusive and don’t get in the way. I’m not sure if I’ve seen a popup in Mint or not. Most of the time I notice there’s an update available because there’s a notification in the system tray or equivalent.

And I’m not even here to bash how Windows does it. I haven’t had many issues with my windows machines because I’ll check for updates and/or install available ones right away. Either that or I don’t use the machine for a while (working as a server) and it may or may not restart itself at night sometimes.

I still prefer the Linux way, which is kind of a win-win in my eyes because you get control over updates and reboots AND your system isn’t as much of a target in the first place so updates aren’t usually time critical.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I mean, popups are by definition intrusive, no?

Windows 11 just shows a little icon in the notification tray and won't really bother you otherwise until you click on it. I think by default it will try to install the pending updates on shutdown, but when you click on the icon you can choose to either postpone it or do it immediately.

Meanwhile, Ubuntu always interrupts you with a popup which yes, you can click "Not now" on if you want to deal with it later, but then it'll just pop up again some other time. And the only other option is to just let it do its thing (but at least it can run unobtrusively in the background and only requires a restart if there's a kernel update).

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