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I'm in hospital for a surgery. Staffs don't wear masks. Many of them cough. In the recovery room there is free unlimited access for visitors and you're of course with other patients. Another patient here has three visitors. No masks. No distance. No barriers.

I am trying to discharge myself because I'm legitimately worried I'll catch something from someone else (if I haven't already).

Hospitals don't care about COVID. Why would anyone be surprised about the general population when the most medical institution there is doesn't?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Hospital staff are jaded but that doesn't mean they don't care. The risk posed by covid is less than it once was due to increased immunity and reduced severity strains.

If you don't feel safe, by all means, leave, but if the reason you are there is for something serious, perhaps it is worth staying. I assume something more minor would not require a hospital stay.

We have had cokds and flus before covid. Hospital staff wore masks before covid when appropriate, like in surgery. They still do now. Not wearing a mask 24/7/when the pandemic phase has ended and its endemic is not unusual. Its a risk benefit assessment.

Most people have had covid multiple times. On an individual basis for most people, it is low risk, like lots of other illnesses. On a population basis its still a big killer, especially for those in high risk categories.

We shoukd consider the total of risk. If we all wear masks in all social settings and distance, will that be detrimental to kids development? Will that lead to poorer perceived health outcomes due to poorer communication between medical staff and patients, or between different medical staff? What is the risk increase if they mandate masks versus not wearing them when all the doctors and nurses go on buses, go to supermarkets, go to concerts etc. Population spread when its endemic is different to super spreading events when its novel.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

v weird choice to come into a COVID sub to spread misinformation and cope about COVID?

each infection increases the risk of lifelong heart, brain and other organ issues. plutocrats still mask and demand PCR tests for in-person meetings. mask-wearing is being stamped out among the rest of us for reasons we can probably only speculate about, but may include

  • dropping any pretence of caring about "front line" workers, before the contradictions became too much to bear
  • distracting from governments' deadly negligence by removing a visible reminder of it
  • helping out oligarchs (fossil fuel, commercial real estate) who were losing money due to people working from home
[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Listen up, this dude's talking facts. Assuming that we just don't care is pretty insulting.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

This is crazy to me. I work in a hospital and everyone in every OR is required to wear masks, scrubs/bunny suits (sterile white disposable suits), shoe covers (or have shoes specifically only for use in the ORs) and sometimes gloves if there are circumstances that require it. We've also had requirements for everyone who works with patients throughout the hospital to wear a mask since probably October/November.

Edit: the OR rules have been the same since I started working there almost a decade ago, not just since COVID

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Glad to hear some hospitals are sensible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I’ve been in and out of a fair number of hospitals lately. Some people are jaded or tired of it, yes, but I’ve also noticed a big difference between hospital systems. Overall management and enforcement of policies helps keep those things in check. Some hospitals are definitely better at this than others.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Update:

The one single patient had 7 different visitors, no masks, tiny room. One of them put on a mask after everyone else left. Two of them were coughing. :/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Where is this hospital?